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[–] RecallMadness@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why does nobody watch the women’s leagues? Is it because nobody else does? can’t have all the social aspects of sports if nobody else is doing it.

Imo, they need to stop the segregation. Ditch the women’s leagues, but keep the games and teams. Have both teams play in one league, and contribute to the overall score of the team.

It’ll add new strategy to the seasons. Spend all of your budget on the dudes and hope they keep winning despite the ladies; build a strong women’s team to carry your b-tier men’s team; or something in between.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This results in zero women playing sports.

I wish so much that the top women athletes were above the replacement level. It would create so much interest, we could all root for these women. It would be a benefit in terms of equal rights arguments when you could point to a woman being better at a sport than the men.

But unfortunately that's just not reality. Male replacement level players are better than the best of the best female players. Having women on a team means having a player that's below replacement level on the team. Meaning they could find a male player from a minor league team that could play better. This will never be a winning strategy.

There isn't really a rule that prevents women from competing at the top level in professional sports at the top level. There just isn't any women that can compete at that level. I remember around 20 years ago there was a woman goaltender that was really good and there were hopes she might be good enough to play in the NHL. Ended up not being as good as the male goalies in the minor leagues, so didn't make the cut to get to the NHL.

It's just one of those things where reality doesn't conform to what we want it to be from a political standpoint. Women's leagues exist (and should continue to exist) because if they didn't women wouldn't get to play sports. There's always thousands of men that are stronger and faster than the strongest and fastest woman. It sucks, but it's how it is.

People watch the NBA over the WNBA because they want to be the very best at the sport. It's not a segregation rule that prevents women from playing in the NBA, it's just that there aren't any women that make the cut. Same goes for most sports.

But in the end it isn't really a requirement to be the best at a sport to deserve equal rights. Sports are sports and it's not really that important that there aren't any women that make the cut at the top level of play. There's more important things to worry about.

[–] RecallMadness@lemmy.nz 3 points 3 months ago

Why would it result in zero women playing? I’m not suggesting you merge the women’s teams with the open team.

But have it so your women’s teams performance counts just as much as the men’s.

Two teams (men’s and women’s), each playing against their own gender, scoring points in one league.

No point paying your dudes millions per season to get the best players if your women’s team sucks and loses every game.

Get teams and fans an incentive to invest and in both genders by playing for the same trophy.