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[–] goatmeal@midwest.social 66 points 2 days ago (14 children)

That’s great but do an electoral college majority want to end the electoral college?

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Doesn't matter. Ending the electoral college would require an amendment, and amendments require 3/4 of states to approve them. Abolishing the electoral college benefits California and the smallest states that expect to always side with California no matter what, which doesn't get you to the 38 states required.

[–] BlackPenguins@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

It would not. There is already a pact with a bunch of states that say once they have enough support they will put their electoral votes towards the popular vote of the country not the popular vote of their state. If enough states get on board the EC becomes powerless. Because the states determine how they vote.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact

They are getting close. A couple more states needed for activation.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago

Doesn't end it, merely does an end run around it. Also unlikely to ever take effect, because to get to 270 electoral votes worth of states supporting it you're going to need to get states on board with it who will directly lose influence and/or who generally don't vote in line with California and moving to the winner being decided by national popular vote (whether directly or by using it to pledge electors) essentially makes the result largely determined by turnout in California (both times in recent history the popular vote and electoral vote were not in alignment, the margin for the national popular vote was smaller than the margin in California).

It's a lower bar to reach than actually ending the electoral college, but it's unlikely to succeed for essentially the same reason - you have to get multiple states that will essentially lose any influence over the executive branch if they approve it to approve it.

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