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I don't understand this mentality at all. No dreams? No drive? You don't want to make art, or raise children, or help your community, or cook food, or tend the earth?
FYI This is the majority of the workforce. They have to work in order to do other things that are not paid. The are not interested in self improvement, climbing the social ladder, kissing ass etc. They want to do a job that doesn't suck, get paid a fair wage, and work a fair number of hours so they can do the things they actually enjoy.
These are the people that drive human society. The most valuable portion that maintains our existence.
Who says I don't do these things? Can you turn making art into a job if you want to do it for a few hours each month and aren't particularly good? Can you turn child-raising into a job if you only raise your own? Can you turn "community helping" into a job if you just help whoever you can for small things without any particular qualifications? Does cooking food for myself, family and friends pay anything? Does tending my garden pay anything?
You've bought into the toxic idea that only paid work is real. Raising your own kids is work. Cooking food for your own family is work, growing food for your family is work.
This kind of labor, and much more, is just as real and important as paid labor.
The fuck? You do know you're in a thread about "jobs", not about generic "work", right? No one said anything about generic work, this thread was about jobs, i.e. getting paid so you have enough to live.
Exactly, and that's a big problem. We need to talk about it, whenever the topic comes up. It's called "invisible labor" for a reason.
I have no idea what you're trying to talk about. You're not making sense to me.
I personally would love to do almost all of those things. I wouldn't want to do them as a job. There is an ocean of difference between doing something because it's enjoyable and doing it because if I ever stop for any reason, I will starve to death in a ditch. Tends to kill the fun.
My ideal job would be chilling out as a professional student, splitting my time between large amounts of socializing and various crafting hobbies that are not stressful because my ability to live does not depend on them. Might even take up an instrument. Wouldn't play it for anyone, I just like learning things more than I like anything else. Which is not monetizable.
Barring that, whatever allows me the most time to do so without making me miserable. Beyond the basic amount required to survive, life isn't about money. Life is life.