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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 71 points 1 month ago (3 children)

As a SimpleX user.

God damnit.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 73 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Infrastructure will always be used by evil and good. If it exists. Just like a road. Normal people use them as well as murderers.

If a good encryption chat software exists it will be used. It's necessary for normal privacy and sensitive topics between people but those ones will also use it. Nothing to do about it.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Ywah, but it sucks when malicious actors use it enough to bring attention from authorities who will do eveeything they can to undermine everyone's privacy.

Also extra sad when you realize they didnt care or investigate those nazis before, but will now claim that they cant do their work because muh encryption.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Like everything else, if it's worth doing it's probably worth self hosting.

[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't really get either of these comments. No one should be using telegram for anything other than a discord clone, and of course the shady turds will gravitate to privacy-focused messaging apps. I mean presumably that's why the turds chose telegram initially, they just fucked up the due diligence and thought telegram was secure because they credulously believed the founder dude who folded under state pressure.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

It would be nice if the first publicity it got wasn't for being the choice of Nazis. I don't like that if I mention to a coworker that I use it, there's going to be that question of "wait, is this guy secretly a white supremacist".

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 1 month ago

Nobody did any due diligence... They heard the marketing and that it.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You are surprised that the darkweb chat client has Nazis on it?

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 6 points 1 month ago

"Darkweb"? I was under the impression that it means a messenger that is onion/i2p-only. Simplex, while having an easy Tor integration, is mostly used by clearnet.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

That's a good point to it tho. It means Simplex is simple enough for anyone, even telegram pogromists to use. Advanced stuff became user-friendly, so average folks can with some adjustment come to it too.