this post was submitted on 24 Oct 2024
-6 points (44.4% liked)

politics

19120 readers
2412 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Caliber and location of the wound. Ballistics is a science.

Plus, it's not like anyone else is shooting Palestinian children.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world -2 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Hamas rules Gaza by assassination and fear. They kill other Palestinians with guns and other things all the time. They shoot parents in front of their kids and vice verse to stay in power. The Iranian immamate and Qatari royals don't pay people to post about it online all day, though, so Al Jazeera doesn't write about it and Guardian doesn't retweet about it, and that's the truth of the matter. The evidence is staring you in the face.

Doesn't the idea of trained, uniformed soldiers, subject to a very robust, open legal system, as well as a military code of justice enforced by courts martial, sniping kids in the head for sport sound unbelievable? I posit that not only does it sound unbelievable, but that is actually is unbelievable; that if you were being rational, you should not and would not believe it.

No, no doctor anywhere in the world can determine the identity and motive of an individual from a bullet wound. This article's presumption to the contrary defies obvious logic and physics. Think about it for five seconds. Terminal ballistics has nothing to do with identifying the shooter or motive.

In no court of law in America would these doctors testimony be admitted as identification evidence or to explain motive, and you must know this to be true. Should read more critically, slow down.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, but reality absolutely disagrees:

https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/more-women-and-children-killed-gaza-israeli-military-any-other-recent-conflict

We have eyewitnesses to Israeli snipers shooting kids, it is NOT Hamas doing this.

https://www.dci-palestine.org/israeli_forces_fatally_shoot_two_palestinian_children_in_the_head_in_the_northern_occupied_west_bank

https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/08/28/west-bank-spike-israeli-killings-palestinian-children

https://www.dci-palestine.org/targeting_childhood_palestinian_children_killed_by_israeli_forces_and_settlers_in_the_occupied_west_bank

https://imemc.org/article/american-doctor-israeli-snipers-deliberately-targeted-palestinian-children-in-gaza/

"Q. Wait, you’re saying that children in Gaza are being shot by snipers?

A. Definitively. I have two children that I have photographs of, that were shot so perfectly in their chest I couldn’t put my stethoscope over their heart more accurately

. And directly on the side of the head, in the same child, no toddler gets shot twice by mistake by the world’s best sniper, and they are dead center shots."

To say nothing of other innocents:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/09/09/israel-snipers-shot-killing-civilians-west-bank/

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Ridiculous quotes. The doctors in Gaza certainly have strong imaginations, that or magical powers.

Unfortunately, wild conjecture and speculation by people soliciting donations is not evidence.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Tell me this, how much personal experience do YOU have with sniper victims? None? Yeah, forgive me for taking the word of a medical expert over an internet expert.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

None.

This isn't about taking the doctor's medical opinion over someone without a medical degree and practical experience. Read the doctor's own words. What he is saying does not follow or make logical sense.

A doctor cannot distinguish two bullet wounds as from rounds aimed and fired by a sniper or two rounds fired by a drunk with a pistol, or by two stray bullets, or even by one stray bullet, or even by one piece of shrapnel, if it's through and through. Do you not know about bullets?

The ~~sniper~~ doctor said in his own words that his opinion was based on what cannot be described as anything other than wild speculation.

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml -4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)