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    [–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Turning an OS to subscription based. World class assholes. The alternative is win11, which is even more shit while they are working hard to fuck that shitshow even more up. Yeah, Linux is the way to go.

    [–] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

    There's still win 10 ltsc iot, but I doubt it can be used in a buisness setting.

    [–] CaptnNMorgan@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Windows 11 isn't that bad. Like any other OS, you have to get used to certain things, but overall I don't understand why people have such an issue with it, other than Microsoft being a shitty company

    [–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
    • It's slower then 10.
    • They recently disabled the old configuration screens, meaning you have only the fancy looking broken settings. Try to remove a Bluetooth device. You can't. "failed to remove device". It can't forget the Bluetooth data. This is one of many flaws. Many settings are gone now.
    • it's impossible to remove Edge now.
    • there are ads within the OS.
    • they stopped support for several apps, for instance to use the Xbox kinect as a 3D scanner.
    • it's now harder, sometimes impossible, to boot from a USB as win11 has too much control over the bios and makes UEFI sometimes impossible to use. It automatically boots into windows, even when told otherwise, and "repairs" the changes made.

    I can continue for hours why win11 sucks donkey balls. Recent news from MS about their plans for win11 are also very troublesome. As well as the paid subscription for win10 for security updates. Like, wtf! I have 3 machines running win10, so I need to pay 90 a year? For real? Just so I won't have to use the win11 aids.

    [–] CaptnNMorgan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

    I use a Bluetooth headset and my Bluetooth earbuds, among other things I don't use as often, on windows 11 and I've never had an issue with forgetting or disconnecting devices. I do have issues with my mic disconnecting sometimes, but that seems to be either a distance issue, my headset, or both. I've never seen an ad on my PC and I'm not sure what edge is. Everything else you said doesn't apply to me in any way

    [–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago

    I mean for one it supports a lot less hardware. Second it's significantly less reliable. Third it has thing like Co-Pilot built-in. I don't know how people aren't criticizing it more frankly.

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Win11 is definitely a lot better than Win10. The improvements around WSL alone are worth the upgrade.

    Sure, the new start menu sucks but there are easy workarounds for that.

    [–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    You're joking right?!? 😂

    [–] general_kitten@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    You know people are allowed to have opinions

    [–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

    Yeah, I'd like to have discussions with people who have factual based opinions and I don't mind changing my opponion when they come with properly factual supported arguments. However, opinions based on feelings I do not understand and I do not feel like a discussion is even possible as I cannot argue against a feeling, no matter how factual my arguments are. It's why I do not argue with religious people. They claim a monopoly in the truth. How unfactual their claim may be, there is no argument which they do not see as a personal attack.

    So either someone is joking when saying a pile of shit is actually kinda nice, or they lost all connection to reality.

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    You’re joking right?!? 😂

    No, why would I? I nowhere said that Win11 is the best OS, btw, but from the perspective of a Linux user, Win11's WSL2 is a massive improvement over WSL 1.0 in Win10.

    If you're looking for a Win10 fanboy, maybe look in a different community, not a Linux one.

    [–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Win10 runs faster and more stable then win11. Don't get me started on all the limitations win11 introduced, next to all the ads and loss of control of settings.

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Win10 runs faster and more stable then win11.

    Bogus. They are the same in that regard. Stability is mostly dependent on used hardware and drivers these days.

    Don’t get me started on all the limitations win11 introduced

    Please do get started and how they weigh more than than WSL2.

    next to all the ads

    Win10 also has ads, MS added more ads through updates. My work desktop PC runs Win10, my work notebook runs Win11. I have the comparison on a daily basis.

    and loss of control of settings.

    A few minor things around taskbar placement. Even though my personal preference is a vertical taskbar on the left screen edge, it's less important than WSL2.

    [–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Bogus. They are the same in that regard. Stability is mostly dependent on used hardware and drivers these days.

    Ah, so all the tests must be wrong then. All the articles must be mistaken.

    A few minor things around taskbar placement. Even though my personal preference is a vertical taskbar on the left screen edge, it's less important than WSL2.

    Just that? Then where are the old settings? The old configuration screen? It's gone now in win11.

    Win10 also has ads, MS added more ads through updates. My work desktop PC runs Win10, my work notebook runs Win11. I have the comparison on a daily basis.

    I only had ads for win11 and office365 on win10. That's it. Win11 has loads of ads.

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Ah, so all the tests must be wrong then. All the articles must be mistaken.

    All? ALL? So finding only one counter example to Win10 running faster tears down your whole argument? You must be very sure of yourself. Let me do 30 seconds of googling.... Oh:

    Just that? Then where are the old settings? The old configuration screen? It’s gone now in win11.

    No idea what you're talking about. Also: WSL2 is more important.

    I only had ads for win11 and office365 on win10. That’s it.

    Then you forgot about the all ads for which there are guides on how to disable them. For example https://windowsreport.com/remove-ads-windows-10-creators-update/

    [–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    I have to confess, I disabled internet when installing windows to avoid all the booking[dot]com etc apps and ads. But I got ads on win11 and besides the MS apps ads I didn't get anything else.

    I've seen several reports stating win10 is faster. I've based my opinion on those reports.

    Thank you for adding sources to your reply, I'll look into it. For now I'm fucked up (drunk) because of the US elections as the outcome is either bad or extremity fucked up. And have a major influence for us Europeans as well.

    In the end, MS is fucking up their OS big time, whether it's 10 or 11. I feel forced to switch everything I have to Linux, although I do depend on some apps which do not support Linux sadly. Like Directory Opus. I had a hard time working with network drives on Linux, which makes a switch hard for me as I have a NAS for my main storage. But MS sure pushes me to switch.