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Admittedly not all the votes are in, but...
Are all Jill Stein votes from protest voters? Nah, there are diehard Green supporters out there.
Are there other 3rd party candidates? Of course, but how many RFK (more votes than Stein in WI) voters could she have converted? Almost none.
This was her blue wall road to victory, show me the electoral path to victory ruined by third party voters who would have otherwise voted Democrat.
This election was lost by people not showing up to vote. Trump is sitting at almost 72M votes right now compared to 74M in 2020. Harris is only at 67M now, compared to Biden's 81M in 2020. While there are still votes to count, there aren't 15M votes left to count.
Whether it was lack of interest, protest, or whatever reason, 10% of voters stayed home this year.
My election registration got canceled three times this year. The last two times it was because of a "duplicate", and they were counting my canceled registrations as duplicates. I have no idea if my ballot got counted, or if it was discarded.
I vote blue in one of those red states...
Similar here actually. I usually try to vote by mail, but by the time I finally got registeration and residency handled after 2 online registrations and two visits to the elections office, early voting was over, so I had to go to the polls on election day
Write to the white house and ask them to investigate it as fraud. Because there was shenanigans pulled in red states for that.
Americans overseas had their ballots challenged in Pennsylvania and there is still a lawsuit over that.
I blame the Stein voters exactly as much as I blame the people staying at home. And neither as much as the people who voted for Trump.
And you lay absolutely zero blame at the feet of the Democratic Party itself?
A good chunk of biden voters then were shepherded in by Bernie since Biden ended up compromising with Bernie for the transition.
Imagine if Harris threw a bone to the left. Those are some of the 15 million who stayed home.
"Admittedly not all the votes are in, but..." you'll pretend to make a point with vote counts anyway.
I am so fucking sick of all this shit.
These states have been called for Trump. The remaining outstanding vote will not impact this result. The remaining vote is not going to come in all for Jill Stein or other third party candidates. The point that protest votes for third party candidates did not rob Harris of an electoral college victory will stand once 100% of the vote is in.
Okay, now you've supplied enough information to validate what you're saying. Thanks.
We don’t have 15 million outstanding votes. They said that in their post.
Unless the dems can pull 15 million votes out of their ass, Trump won.