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Yeah no thank you. Yeah lets all join these groups so that it will make easier for them to find us when they come for us.
DON'T JOIN ANY GROUP AND ESPECIALLY ONES THAT ARE ORGANIZING ON SOCIAL MEDIA LIKE LEMMY.
Only kind of ways we should organize should not include our phones and should hold no fucking lists.
We are about to live in a mega (nazi) government. For now I am going hide and wait. Luckily for me I am white maie. My dad gave me a Trump hate that had planned on burning instead going just keep it just in case. My boys are going play straight and we going hold out.
I want a fight I want the largest strike in American history. Instead every posting memes and whining online. Or trying to find a way out. Fuck that we can't give in. But at same time can't be joining any groups who will be keeping lists.
When Project 2025 goes in full effect they will be coming for those groups. All I can say is arm up and be ready to fight.
This is an utterly contradictory stance to hold. If we do not organize, and can only do so in person, then that means you will NOT have the largest strike in US history. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Secondly, these orgs have internal organization networks, they don't communicate or organize on Social Media beyond recruiting.
Thirdly, it is wildly privledged to sacrifice people as a white man just because you will not personally be effected, even going to the length of signaling support for Trump. This directly harms queer people, POC, women, and more, and they will not organize with you if you are willing to watch them get attacked. Cede no ground, use your privledge to protect others, not watch them suffer.
You desparately need to read theory and get organized, just like I called for.
My sons are gay but not joining other group. I probably already on many list. Sorry to inform you. You couldn't organize a popcorn stand right now using social media much less the kind of strike we need.
And I never said I stand by. Hence get armed part. I am ready to fight. But most of yall complaining refuse to do so. Yall still think you can vote and organize your way out of what is coming.
I wonder did the left try that when Hitler was coming up in power? How that work out for them.
I don't know who you think you're talking to, but I have posted what I believe others need to do in several other places. I'll post it below. I argue for getting strapped and organizing for revolution, because voting doesn't help shit. You're arguing for hiding and watching queer people, women, and POC getting thrown into the meatgrinder while you coast on privledge.
Here's what the Leftists were doing: actively fighting Hitler, hence why the Communists were the first to be killed off in Nazi Germany.
-Vladimir Lenin
There is hope! It isn't easy, it isn't fun, but if we can know our circumstances, we can know our way out of them, and if we know our way out, we can get out.
Get organized. Join a Leftist org, find solidarity with fellow comrades, and protect each other. The Dems will not save you, it is up to the Workers to protect themselves. The Party for Socialism and Liberation and Freedom Road Socialist Organization both organize year round, every year, because the battle for progress is a constant struggle, not a single election. See if there is a chapter near you, or start one! Or, see if there's an org you like more near you and join it, the point is that organizing is the best thing any leftist can do.
Read theory. A good primer is Blackshirts and Reds. It will help contextualize what fascism is, what causes it, and how to stop it. I can offer a good introductory reading list regarding Marxism if you'd like, but this is a good starting point.
Aggressively combat white supremacy, misogyny, queerphobia, and other attacks on marginalized communities. Cede no ground.
Be more industrious, and self-sufficient. Take up gardening, home repair, tinkering. It is through practice that you elevate your problem-solving capabilities. Not only will you improve your skill at one subject, but your general problem-solving muscles get strengthened as well. Theory guides practice, which sharpens theory to be reapplied to better practice.
Learn self-defense. Get armed, if practical. Be ready to protect yourself and others. The Democrats will not save us, we must save each other.
Be persistent. If you feel like a single water driplet against a mountain, think of the Grand Canyon. Oh, how our efforts pile up! With consistency, every rock, boulder, even mountain, can be drilled through with nothing but steady and persistent water droplets.
I have a feeling that you are desperate to get us all to sign your fucking list. You might even be working for enemy. You keep sharing those groups. And you didn't read what I wrote. AGAIN NEVER SAID I STAND BY. BUT YOU CAN FUCK OFF WITH THOSE GROUPS. Not joining so stop inviting people. You will get more people killed then I.
Even by your own admission that leftist and communists were killed first. And here you are working hard to gather that list. Get fucked.
Fuck your lists.
You said you are keeping a MAGA hat to protect yourself, you aren't unclear about your intentions to do nothing. You say you want to organize, but you refuse to organize. It's all performative nonsense.
Again, I have explicitly stated that voting will not prevent fascism, we must organize against it, and you are pretending I am advocating for voting, rather than organizing. You have no idea what you are talking about.
Yes, Leftists were targeted first. That means we need to stick together and organize, not simply accept defeat and going along with the fascism.
Yeah organizing in plain site. Hello Trump FBI, and CIA this post here. Yeah organizing on social media. Might as well flash big fucking neon sign for all to see.
When us true revolutionary organizie won't be posting about it on social media goodbye. Don't respond to me anymore.
I told you, both the orgs I listed don't organize on social media. Keep being performative and launching a 3 person protracted war from the mountains against your local Wal-Mart, I guess. Actual leftists have learned from successful revolutionaries that organizing must be done public-facing, with secure internal communication.
disobey, by waiting around with a trump hat in hand, hoping they don't come for you and your family? seems not much like disobeying at all, to me, and in fact seems like quite the opposite.