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[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Please describe her phonyness

[–] berno@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fracking, Border, Medicare for all.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So she attempted to make her campaign more palatable to the never trump wing of republicans by accepting that she wouldn't have the political capital to do medicare for all? No politician in this country is getting medicare for all in the near future (no votes + supreme court will take down). No politician is banning fracking (they could but it would go to supreme court and be shut down). Border is one of those areas I'll agree with, there's more room to spare on that topic.

[–] berno@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

She flip flopped if there's one thing Americans hate it's a flip flopper

[–] kerrypacker@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I just find her 100% fake, like she is always acting/performing. I don't need to justify it, over half the US population agrees so it's really not my problem it's hers, and if you choose to defend her, yours.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This is why it's so important to the dems to run charismatic celebrity figureheads who will let the VP and secretaries run the government.

People like you can then focus on how much the President reminds you of your father and how much you wish you could have a beer with him, and not be worried about boring stuff like not having mass deportations.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 week ago

Ah the parliamentary system. The folks who want a king can have him, everyone else can get someone competent actually running the show.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

But nothing you said there was actually specific or precise. Just a vibe, and a vibe held by...well, all politicians. So I'm asking the same question as OP...what precisely is different about her vs other politicians that makes her phony to you?

To provide a concrete example of what im looking for I'd say: "over half the US population agrees so it's really not my problem it's hers, and if you choose to defend her, yours" literally shouts insecurities. I don't know if that's real, but if I were asked what's my vibe check on what you've said so far, that's it. So what I'm looking for is a similar example or set of examples from Harris which demonstrates the vibe you experience.

[–] kerrypacker@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Every time she talks. Especially the rallies.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 week ago

Give a single actual example pls

[–] CoCo_Goldstein@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

She never seemed to do well in unscripted situations. When answering any questions in an interview, even from friendly interviewers, she always seemed to be thinking "what did my staff recommend I say for questions like this?" rather than "I will answer this question with what I believe in".

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I just find her 100% fake,

That reflects on you, not her. With a bullshit take like that you probably just resent her gender or something. Trump is the fake, since he is purely a bullshit artist with no other actual skills.

so it’s really not my problem it’s hers,

Its not her problem at all. It's the country's problem that people like you pick politicians for trivial bullshit "reasons". Nothing can be done about people ruling out voting based on stupid shit like gender though.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I don't understand what attacking the user for sharing their feelings gets you. It's the vibe that enough voters shared in to stay home on election day. Her interviews seemed canned and focus group searched to death. Trump speaks like a deranged imbecile, but that's how his voters are able to connect with him. He stands apart from the rest of the establishment despite being the most snake oil establishment figurehead there is. People see what they want to see in him. He is a tabula rasa for the magats

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don’t understand what attacking the user for sharing their feelings gets you. It’s the vibe that enough voters shared

Because voting or not voting based on a "vibe" is the single stupidest reason anybody can have in making a voting choice. It is based on the idiotic idea that you are doing the candidate some sort of favor, rather than doing yourself a favor, by voting for a good candidate.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't disagree but it's the sad reality of the world we live in. I don't know what the solution is apart from more education but singling out this indv won't get us far... I understand the frustration though.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

I think we should point out when people make choices for the wrong reasons so that others don't repeat the same mistake.

[–] kerrypacker@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Sure I must be sexist, or racist. Keep going with that bullshit line of reasoning and see where it gets you. Obama is my favourite president. Nearly all of my mentors and role models are strong women. Plus you don't even know my gender, or race, or nationality....

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Okay but there must have been some actual reason that you didn't state. The actual reason could not have been the reason you stated, that "she seemed fake". Because nobody could be stupid enough to have that as their actual reason.