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[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (94 children)

science can test the hypothesis that astrology is accurate in various ways

This is true

theory is able to accurately predict the world around us then it is still a good theory

This is also true

The moment you start making absolute statements based on the above, no matter how unanimous the evidence, you have left the realm of science and your brain begins to succumb to the rot. If we treated well supported models as gospel, we'd still be using the Newtonian gravitational model.

The entire point of science is to admit the fundamental uncertainty of all human knowledge, and develop the tools to develop better models. Yes, every model is wrong. Some allow us to make very accurate predictions, but they are all imperfect approximations.

No scientific model justifies absolute certainty

[–] 20hzservers@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (86 children)

Yeah but you dismiss things without providing any counter evidence, science is always willing to change but that has to be backed up by empirical evidence, which there isn't much of to back up astrology. "SCIENCE IS NEVER CERTAIN." Is a cop out dismissal used by people who don't understand science but think because they half listened in science class during the part about scientific method they don't need to provide evidence to back up claims they make. Edit: If you have empirical non anecdotal evidence to back up your claims I'm all ears btw.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (85 children)

Yeah but you dismiss things without providing any counter evidence

When did I do that?

"SCIENCE IS NEVER CERTAIN." Is a cop out dismissal used by people who don't understand science but think because they half listened in science class during the part about scientific method they don't need to provide evidence to back up claims they make.

It is also a factual statement by people who do understand science and are tired of seeing scientific fundamentalism instill a smug sense of certainty in people who claim to be scientific.

I never claimed that astrology is true. All I said was that absolute statements are unscientific.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago (84 children)

You did say astrology could be true:

but like I said I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to have some actual correspondence to some unknown tangible cause unrelated to the stars

But really you just fell for the Barnum effect.

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