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Don't get me wrong. Apple removing audio jack was the biggest facepalm in smartphone history. And you can thank it for not being able to make an upgrade without sacrificing audio jack (and SD card too :/). But USB-C is getting standardized everywhere now (laptops, smartphones, etc.). What makes USB-C earphones not worth the switch?

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[–] DestinyGrey@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I can't charge my phone and listen to stuff at the same time, and my headphone jack headphones work with every device but a new phone. Don't know why I would want to throw that convenience away all because Apple/every other manufacturer decided we should get rid of headphone jacks.

[–] GingeyBook@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I always hear this argument, but seriously how often is this a problem?

I plug my phone in in the car and when I go to bed at night. Neither time of which I would be listening to music

[–] andyMFK@reddthat.com 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

you are aware that other people live different lives to you, and do things differently right? I listen to music to fall asleep, and I plug my phone into my car via the 3.5mm jack to listen to music. You ask how often it would be a problem? It would be a problem every single day

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago

You sleep with wired headphones on?

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Many people listen to music and podcasts while driving cars.

[–] GingeyBook@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Typically through the car speakers though

[–] WorldlyIntrospection@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I can't tell which side of the argument your response is supposed to fall on...
Yes, people typically listen through their car speakers. Good job. Gold star.
But not all cars have Bluetooth connectivity. There's still a lot of people who drive vehicles that have to rely on 3.5mm connections (either directly, or with cassette or even CD adapters!). Or maybe their car supports Bluetooth audio, but they prefer the higher fidelity audio that a 3.5mm interface provides vs Bluetooth.

Maybe I'm missing something here. But this response holds no water.

[–] GingeyBook@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I don't deny that there are a significant number of people that still use the 3.5mm jack when driving

But I believe that the majority of people do not.

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago

I do this……using a lightning adapter that has a 3.5mm jack and a lightning charging port. It’s not a problem.

[–] lnsfw3@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Gaming.

Games typically need low latency audio, so Bluetooth is out. Games can also burn through battery, so you want to plug in after a while.

[–] Laice@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And how many games that require perfect audio latency did you play on your phone in the last weeks?

[–] lnsfw3@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 2 years ago

I play a fair bit of Bullet Echo. Having 100+ ms of latency with Bluetooth headphones is a pain. It burns through my battery pretty quickly, so I often end up plugging in my phone.

It isn't a big deal - but being able to charge and headphone would be nice.

[–] Batbro@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Planes, overnight flights is a great example where this becomes a problem

[–] GingeyBook@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

But once again, how often is this a problem? I would say the majority of people are not in overnight flights that often

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 8 points 2 years ago

There is a huge part of the world wide population that uses their phones constantly and need to constantly charge the phone. As an example think of a parking lot attendent sitting in a booth, nothing to do but play on the phone all day...

[–] jfx@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm daily commuting via train. There are USB chargers everywhere in the cars, so this is pretty significant. And don't tell me to buy another wireless gadget I have to charge before I go - or some USB buds that won't work with my other devices, since USB-C is just a plug, not a Standard.

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And you need to carry the charging case, and a 2nd usb cable

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago

Why do you need to carry a second cable?

Also the charging case for wireless earbuds is easier to carry than wired headphones.

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I relax in my bed and listen to music or watch stuff, and I'd like to charge my phone while I'm close to the socket

[–] Supermuff@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There are usc to headphone + usbc charger adapters

[–] steltek@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

In my particular case, that setup sucks for my car. The adapter advertises having a microphone but my car's aux port doesn't have one.

I would use Bluetooth but the car's Bluetooth is the worst damned thing I've ever had the displeasure of using. It sucks even by Bluetooth standards. The car even forbids pairing/unpairing while the car is in drive, which is great for nanny-stating the morons who try to do that while operating the car but what about when I'm the passenger?! The car's mostly used for family road trips and that kind of inflexibility makes it a nonstarter.

[–] DestinyGrey@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I know this, and they suck (it's another freaking cord to carry around in your pockets), and it's unnecessary in the face of just getting a phone that doesn't need it!

[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Lol I charge it either wirelessly or use a splitter. I have never had a problem using usbc or Bluetooth. I have a tablet with audio jack and I never use it. I also have connected my phone to a USB hub and used gaming headsets and other peripherals.