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My son is afraid of reporting this to police because many of his friends work there, and he's afraid of retaliation at school for being a "snitch". This is not the first time he's witnessed something very wrong and had to report it, that time to police, and he was targeted at school both physically and just with asshole kids treating him the way they do (while also influencing others).

Management made up an excuse and fired my son after it became apparent that he knew about the meth situation and was not ok with it.

He does want corporate to know all of this and take action, so we plan to report it to them.

Part of the trouble is this: My SO's daughter had a similar situation at another fast food joint, it was reported to corporate, and the response was basically "we can't do anything because that location is a franchise". The problem manager in that instance was promoted soon afterward.

I'm not sure if my son's restaurant is corporate owned or franchise. If it's a franchise as I fear, and corporate will take no action, what recourse can we take without police?

I'm super pissed my son was exposed to this and I'm concerned for the girl that informed him, not to mention the other employees. This obviously cannot stand, but I also don't want to ruin my son's social life over it. I remember being a high schooler, it's hard enough without being targeted by jerks.

EDIT: Thank you for all the replies. I plan to wait awhile to give my son some distance, then contact police. To all who said we live in a broken place, you're right, and if we could move immediately we would. It helps to get outside perspectives on stuff like this, and I appreciate all your replies.

Also fuck Spez!

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[–] thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, can you really not see a difference between adults using drugs in the workplace and adults in a position of power giving children dangerous drugs?

[–] kava@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The question is "what should you do about it" not "should this be happening"

Instead of trying to prevent a teen from acquiring drugs, you should raise a healthy teen that doesn't want to use drugs. If she is drug-seeking, you could arrest the adult in this scenario and her life would not fundamentally change. It's easier to get drugs as a teenager than it is to get alcohol.

So the crime of giving meth to a teenager. Ok, that definitely deserves a prison sentence. So let's call the police. But we have to look at the chances of

A) the police doing anything at all

B) the police doing a cursory investigation which reveals nothing and nothing comes from it

C) b) but with everyone at work knowing OP's son called the cops

D) police somehow find enough evidence or probable cause required to arrest him (unlikely)

E) d) but with everyone at work knowing OP's son called the cops

We could go all day, but having experience with calling the police... they won't do anything. Even if they do a small investigation the real risk is retaliation against the son.

That is much more likely outcome than the young teen improving her life and stopping the use of meth.

You see what I mean? I am not condoning the adult that is feeding drugs to a child. I'm just saying in a game theory sense the best move is not to play.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could have not written these two comments and have been better off.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OP asked for advice and I gave it. Wrong or right it's my opinion and I have a feeling I have more experience with these things than most of the people here.

I wouldn't risk the physical safety or mental health of my son by causing a drama at a workplace that won't actually improve the lives of anyone involved. Girl will keep using meth and you'd have caused a giant headache and upended the son's life for nothing. I guess everybody loves a telenovella

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you son's manager was giving him meth, would you like someone to let the cops know?

[–] Vaggumon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, by their own admission they want their kid to OD or get raped because someone doing anything about it is snitching and that's far worse then anything else that could happen.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Teenagers acquiring drugs from adults is not inherently predatory. If it wasn't the manager it could have been friends, family, neighbors, people at parties, sketchy street dealers, etc.

In none of these cases is anyone trying to take advantage of the person. Did we all forget our teenage years? I had adults buy me alcohol when I was 16 and 17. Meth is not alcohol but to a junkie it might as well be.

There is a such thing as context and if someone is being raped then I think the perpetrator should be in prison.

But in my opinion, OP calling the cops has a much higher probability to do harm than solve anything. So many risks

OP's son gets ostracized from whatever social group he has at his job, if not physically retaliated for calling the cops (you ever met a methhead? They are not calm rational people)

Girl gets interviewed and is either high or has drugs on her. Now she has a felony charge for possession

And if it at least had the chance to help the girl with her drug use then maybe it'd be worth it. But it won't. She will continue to use drugs because the root cause has nothing to do with the manager. Healthy and balanced people don't use meth. She has mental health problems. If we cared about her, that would be the one and only thing we would do.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. These two scenarios are more likely than the adult actually facing legal consequences for giving a child meth. If I could snap my fingers and put the guy in jail, I would. But we don't live in fairyland. The criminal justice system is fucked

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Healthy and balanced people don’t use meth.

This is blatantly untrue and you should think twice before giving any advice about drugs again.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You're either a methhead or a teenager, and I can't tell

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m merely pointing out your ignorance.

You know who’s at risk of using or getting addicted to drugs?

Anybody.

There’s no need for personal attacks.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People get addicted who have mental health problems. Mental health problems can happen to anyone. That doesn't make it healthy. Diabetes can happen to anyone too.

personal attacks

So I guess I was right, which one are you?

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow.

Instead of taking the time to read and maybe understand that you are wrong, you decide to double down on the accusations.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Try actually saying something sometime. Its not hard. Try to actually address something I said instead of acting as if you're offended

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did, and you ignored what I had to say and personally attacked me by calling me a methhead.

The whole time, you're too afraid to answer my question I asked "If you son’s manager was giving him meth, would you like someone to let the cops know?".

[–] kava@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wrote 5 paragraphs addressing your comment. You come back with a self righteous quip not saying anything of substance. Try again

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you are going to continue to ignore my question I won't continue this conversation.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Did you even read my comment? Why should I bother writing 500 words answering your question? I don't understand.

I told you. I don't care if someone calls the cops. I'd rather they call me. Go ahead and read it again. I said as much the first time and explained my reasoning.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

To give them the benefit of the doubt, they might mean outwardly healthy and balanced.

Had a friend addicted for a while, and it didn't start showing for at least a couple years. It's really rare, but possible.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To give them the benefit of the doubt, they might mean outwardly healthy and balanced.

Had a friend addicted for a while, and it didn't start showing for at least a couple years. It's really rare, but possible

Do you know how many professionals I know who have started with Adderall and switched to meth later?

Saying only unhealthy and mentally ill people start using drugs is dangerous advice to be giving out.