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[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 87 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Stewart simply spoke the truth. Candidates are supposed to convince people to vote for them. That’s their job. Biden’s communications people hiding behind “He’s not Trump and is competent at the job” is a repeat of Hillary’s 2016 strategy, and the polling numbers actually supported that strategy in 2016. The reality was very different when the votes were counted.

Relying on that strategy in 2024 is playing Russian roulette with American democracy. Biden needs a better communications team. Ideally younger.

[–] Kid_Thunder@kbin.social 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

The DNC should have also given their own other candidates support as well to give some semblance of a choice (except for the one that isn't even eligible and is basically a Republican). Perhaps it wouldn't have to be A few McCheeseburgers from death narcissist moron trying to stay out of prison vs. Dazed and Confused, replacement hips are now a matter of national security

The DNC has once again failed their voter pool by trying to pre-pick their candidate. Last time, it ended in them disbanding their Super Delegates after causing a "fuck them both, I'm staying home" voter mentality.

I'm agreeing with you and perhaps being a little too overzealous about it but I can't believe that they are doing this again when they lost doing it the last time.

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The incumbent president always has more support than another candidate in the same party. They know they can’t risk running someone else when the incumbent president will always have a bias from the voters.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Does that mean Biden intentionally misled people when he indicated he would only be a one term president?

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cokeser@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago

Four people who regularly speak with the 77-year-old Biden told Politico that it is unlikely he would run for reelection in 2024, when he would be in his 80s.

As I regularly speak to my butcher, I also feel inclined to comment on his secret retirement plans.

Biden has not said shit in your links.

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What other candidates? Dean Philips joined too late. Nobody who could have challenged the President actually stepped forward.

There wasn’t any candidate. The two alternatives we got to primary Joe Biden weren’t serious. The serious ones didn’t want to challenge Biden. Period.

Saying the DNC should have run an alternative makes it sound like they should have held Newsom at gun point.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Marianne Williamson ran last time, so she already has national recognition, and she was making waves on new social media platforms like TikTok, really energizing the youth.

Cenk Uygur is literally the CEO and lead anchor of the largest online news network in existence, since 2008, to present day - the young turks. He understands political nuance, has great ideas for how to lead, and would be a strong president who wouldn’t put up with the bullshit we see from the likes of Manchin and Sinema…hell, he even founded the justice democrats.

Phillips is a relative nobody, but he’s the only one the corporate media gave any attention to at all because technically he’s in “the club”

If you don’t know, now you know.

The corporate media machine isn’t going to hand you real challengers for meaningful consideration, who might turn around and upend their whole ad-ridden apple cart. And neither is the DNC.

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Marianne Williamson

Ah yes, Oprah’s spiritual advisor with zero political experience. Her national recognition sums up to being on TV. I don’t want to ridicule her (and you for saying so) so I won’t dig into her political campaign in 2020 and her California disaster. You can find debate videos on YouTube.

Cenk Uygur

The constitution is clear; you cannot run if you’re not born in the United States (or at least the McCain’s loosely defined US soil). I’m not gonna dig further there either (I had to google him) because just that is disqualifying and there’s no more argument about whether he’s a serious candidate or not.

That’s the best you could do? You want the DNC to promote those two?

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Being familiar with her history, I’m not a huge Williamson supporter personally but I do think she and the other primary challengers deserve a platform to promote themselves and their policy positions. At the least, Williamson challenges the establishment centrists from the left, which I am greatly in favor of doing.

The constitution is clear - it has the capacity for amendments to change it over time. The 14th amendment gives naturalized citizens equal protection under the law. This is not ambiguous at all, they are citizens by all rights. This gives Uygur the ability to hold office, including President. This has already been settled case law in lower courts. Uygur is challenging it in higher courts now due to state DNC commissions removing him from the ballot arbitrarily, thus preventing his ability to garner delegates. But alas, wouldn’t you know it - the courts have opted to delay deciding on this until after the election. Even just recently the Supreme Court stated they don’t think states should have the ability to remove candidates from the ballot based on perceived constitutional issues, which also supports his case.

The fact that you have to google Cenk just proves my point - corporate media will not allow for any inkling of challenge from the left. They refuse to platform leftists, and so unless a person is actually informed on politics, they won’t know about these types of challengers. However, if you’re an establishment outsider on the right, you get unlimited free airtime (Trump). The conservative bias is oppressive, and the reason American political discourse has moved so far to the right, despite the generally progressive nature of the American people (backed by lots of polling data). If you take a moment to consider who owns these multinational media conglomerates, this shouldn’t surprise you.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

I agree with everything you said and I think something else we need to talk about is the people who voted for Joe Biden in the 2020 primaries. There were much better options. Voting for Biden was incredibly selfish and foolish.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

HRC won the vote. EC appointed tfg🤷🏻‍♀️

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 27 points 9 months ago (2 children)

She won the vote. She lost the election. It's important to win the election.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The fact that this happened should tell everyone that the US political system is completely broken.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 5 points 9 months ago

I agree that it should be improved to better reflect current population and demographics, but she entered the election Knowing the rules and system. She lost due to bad electioneering, bad strategy, hubris and a decades long negative campaign against her.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

In order to fix it we need candidates who can win in the general election.

[–] GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Elections don’t win votes, however….

[–] ajoebyanyothername@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Seems like votes don't necessarily win elections, either.