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[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 26 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think it's more that people are terrified of Biden being criticized harshly while Trump gets a similar treatment. If news and pundits treat the two the same, it equates them. Which is NOT REALITY. But if outlets treat them as the same, there's a real good chance we get Trump. And there's a not insignificant chance if that happens we won't have another fair election again.

Biden has a lot of problems but they are absolutely nothing compared to Trump on all the same counts and vastly more.

[–] Soulg@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Yes, it's exactly this. It's the idea that you're feeding into the "both sides" bullshit.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah I’m worried equating the too will lead to voter apathy. And voter apathy leads to Trump winning (like it did the first time). If we have to have a grandpa in charge, focus on the competency of their advisers.

On is doing a lot to help the country. The other is planning an active takeover and purge of “half the ones who don’t agree with our dictatorship”.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I’m worried equating the too will lead to voter apathy.

As someone who phone banks, canvasses and gets involved in primaries my anecdotal experience is that is not what's driving voter apathy. What drives voter apathy is the fact that the DNC primaries keep producing these garbage candidates. When is the right time to have a conversation about the people who vote for them in the primaries? In my mind it shouldn't be controversial at this point to say that voting for Biden in the 2020 primaries was selfish and stupid. So when does that conversation happen?

[–] protist@mander.xyz 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You're sure winning hearts and minds over here by treating the majority of Democratic primary voters with utter contempt. There's a reason Sanders ended his campaign early in 2020 and didn't ride it to the end like in 2016, and there's a reason he threw his weight behind Biden in 2020 where he did not support Clinton in 2016. Sanders trusts Biden and the people he surrounds himself with, and I do too, even if I disagree with his admin on some issues.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You’re sure winning hearts and minds over here by treating the majority of Democratic primary voters with utter contempt.

Is that inappropriate? Because that's the treatment I receive on a regular basis when I inform people I'll be voting 3rd party.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Someone was mean to me, so I'm going to be mean to everyone too."

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Does that mean you believe it's inappropriate when someone treats me with contempt when I say I'm voting 3rd party and not for Joe Biden in the 2024 general election?

[–] protist@mander.xyz 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

Awesome. I appreciate your support ☺️