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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

First of all, no he isn't. In fact, it's illegal for the US government to supply arms that might be used in the commission of war crimes. In this case there's not even any doubt.

As for the GOP, they've already demonstrated that whether or not they try to impeach has nothing to do with reality. Even if they DID somehow manage to make impeachment stick by a one-vote majority, there's literally no risk that 2/3 of the senate will vote to convict, so that's not anything remotely resembling a valid excuse to keep contributing to a genocide either.

[–] lutillian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

He actually is in the case that the initial arms shipment was sent, Israel was attacked by Hamas and he had to respond by sending aid. He has gone on record stating that the current war crimes Israel has been committing raise question of the legality of providing further support.

Obviously still remains to be seen if anything will actually come of that though. Words are cheap.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He has gone on record stating that the current war crimes Israel has been committing raise question of the legality of providing further support.

While continuing to send the weapons anyway, as much as he possibly can without congressional approval.

His public pretense at being a moderating influence means less than nothing as long as he keeps being an active supplier of the genocide.

[–] lutillian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

There's no congressional approval needed as he is driven by treaty to provide arms, if anything he is compelled by Congress to send arms as long as Israel is at war as a US ally due to NATO.

He's trying to make the argument that Israel committing genocide with those arms is reason to withdraw support, unfortunately the US government moves at a glacial pace on it's best day to the point that the US military is actually somehow faster. Given the number of Democrats that do support Israel, its entirely realistic that he could get successfully impeached if he failed to comply.

Anyway... Thanks for the civil debate but work is starting so I need to go, I'll read your next message bit I probably won't have time to reply.

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website -2 points 8 months ago

there’s literally no risk that 2/3 of the senate will vote to convict

I dunno about that - Democrats are not "the same" as Republicans (some might have some ounce of integrity? wow that gave me a laugh, but still...), then too there is his own legacy to consider, and his own personal code of ethics. Look, I know, genocide, but still there is a distinction between content vs. process. And the latter it turns out, especially at a level of power that high up, is pretty damn important. The next President could use that same identical power for a far lesser ideal, and so on it goes and before you know it we have a King, not a President. This is the same reason why guilty people go free, so as to attempt to avoid putting innocent people into jail (I know, sometimes that happens too, unfortunately, but the goal should always be to minimize that).

Anyway, long story short: Repubs can huff & puff & try to blow the Dems house down all day long - and that pack of lies is on them - but what Biden chooses to do, is on him. And he is choosing to do this by the books. Which I kinda respect. If only the American people were not so divided - where half the nation wants to increase the military aid we are sending to Israel!! - then he + Congress could act swiftly. But we are divided so... instead we will not. Though keep in mind that if Trump comes to power, he + Congress will send more aid to Israel - and there's a not-insignificant chance that we may send more aid to Russia too (you read that right, not just stop sending aid to Ukraine but join with the aggressor there!). Yes, it can always get worse:-(.

I still think Biden should do more. Though I have to admit that I am not knowledgeable enough to know what else he possibly could do.