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[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 70 points 5 months ago (17 children)

(Preface: I am team genocide. I also live in Germany. Germany's politics are a disgrace, but I digress.)

What annoys me about this is that this discussion gets so much media attention and focus, while it doesn't matter in this very moment. I understand that there are implications if it will be defined as a genocide. But right now people are being killed every day en masse and they frankly give a crap about whether they died in a mass murder or terrorist attack or a genocide.

It reminds me of the early days of the Ukraine war when everyone was so obsessed with comparing Putin to Hitler (Putler is still a popular term) and the discussion was high on whether Putins actions amount to fascism or not, with a lot of internet laymen but also experts on that subject chiming in. When I asked a half Russian, half Ukrainian what their opinion was, their reply was something like "who the fuck cares? Call it a chicken pea pie, nobody cares, people are being killed, I don't give a crap. Somewhen in the future people will be looking back and asking the same question, but it doesn't matter right now." And it stuck with me.

If I understand correctly, the ICJ will rule again on the case in a couple of years (?), which obviously isn't relevant right now. It seems like the ruling would have an aftermath in retrospect but even if they ruled it were a genocide today, nothing much would change directly - but please correct me if I am wrong here.

But what definitely doesn't matter is what we think. What matters is what is happening. And it doesn't need a name to be evil and detrimental.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 34 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

”i am team genocide"

-volvoxvsmarla

I dunno, can we trust them? Agree tho; people are dying and it needs to stop no matter what we call it, even if there were no larger implications; its fucking pointless and needs to stop.

[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I hope I won't be remembered for this quote. I'll choose my phrasing better in the future.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"I (...) won't be (...) better in the future. "

-volvoxvsmarla

[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I need to stop digging, my grave is already big enough to fit a walrus

[–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

I need to stop ███ing, my ███ is already big enough to f███ a walrus

-volvoxvsmarla

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Lol please don't; it was hilarious to read.

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