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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Julius Ceasar had to make sure he held office continuously for decades or else he would have been dragged through the courts.

I believe Julie C's rein came to an extrajudicial end.

If you asked me 15 years ago, I would have naively said that modern governments do not have this problem.

If you consider Trump's current legal situation, I'd argue we absolutely still are. The political upper crust can be in contempt of court every day of the week for a month and suffer no more than a few fines they will refuse to pay. That's assuming they've pissed off someone powerful enough to actually drop the hammer and aren't pure teflon, a la Ken Paxton or Rick Scott.

So much of the current political moment is highlighted by how utterly untouchable the major party leadership demonstrates itself to be. From Nixon to Cheney to Trump, there's no agent within the system willing to level any kind of punishment.

This leads to increasingly bold actions by people grasping for that next brash ring. Greg Abbott can throw barbed wire into the Rio Grande. Ron DeSantis can ship buses full of migrants into downtown NYC and Chicago in what amounts to a kidnapping attempt. Police in Columbia and UCLA and Austin can round up college students as trespassers within their own campuses. Etc, etc.

Just increasingly illegal and corrupt activities by tin-pot dictators who no longer fear a democratic process that's been caged and disenfranchised into obsolescence.

[–] Krono 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You're not wrong, our current oligarchs can get away with almost anything. The only time they face serious consequences is when there is a coalition of other oligarchs who want to punish them.

Which is why I believe Trump and Netanyahu fall into this political trap of "win or prison". They both have many politically powerful enemies.

Maybe I'm being optimistic, I dont want to come off as a shitlib who's thinking "Mueller is really gonna get Drumpf this time!", but I think its very likely hes going to prison if hes unable to pardon himself.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Maybe I’m being optimistic, I dont want to come off as a shitlib who’s thinking “Mueller is really gonna get Drumpf this time!”, but I think its very likely hes going to prison if hes unable to pardon himself.

Maybe. But I think there's a very good chance he wins in November. And rather than confront that possibility, we're seeing a lot of bureaucrats try to slow roll the process so as not to have to deal with the possibility of answering what you do with a President Elect who has been sentenced to a jail term.