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[–] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And yet he has come out strongly against the student protests with classic talking points like "law and order". Stop making excuses for the bag of bones and own up to his positions if your going to support him.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I own up to his real position. I won't own up to fake positions he never held. He sent offensive weapons to Israel after it was apparent this has gone far beyond simple defense from terrorists. If I had my choice I would have only sent humanitarian aid and defensive weapons like resupplies for the iron dome. I also suppose acknowledging Palestine while at the same time recognizing that Hamas is a dangerous group which leads the country and needs to be overthrown. The only way Israel will ever get Hamas out of Palestine is by supporting the Palestinian people who want to fight for control of their own country.

[–] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The only way Israel will ever get Hamas out of Palestine is by supporting the Palestinian people who want to fight for control of their own country.

Isreal created Hamas through funding religious extremism in Gaza to undercut moderate political power. They have manufactured the justification for genocide, this is decades in the making. You have obviously consumed alot of zionist propaganda but it's time to deprogram that shit.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The far right in Israel has a lot to answer for. There is no doubt that the actions of Israel in Palestine created Hamas. I think it's too far of a jump to say this is intentionally creating a justification for genocide. It's also important to acknowledge that the government in both countries doesn't represent all of their people. There are genocidal assholes on both sides as well as those who want to coexist. I would prefer that Israel didn't exist at all because any religious or ethnically exclusive country is troubling to me, but the Nazis didn't leave us much choice.

[–] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The far right in Israel has a lot to answer for.

That's not how it works. Germany was on the hook for Nazi's. You can't shift the blame when it's the country at fault.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Think long and hard about that position considering what the US did in Iraq and Afghanistan after 9/11.

[–] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You're a ghoul, jesus christ.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

What? We were attacked by terrorists we created and then invaded another country. Sounds pretty similar to me.