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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 4 months ago (4 children)

“If this banner was a blank banner, we wouldn’t be here,” said Gens. “If it said ‘Support Our Troops’ we probably wouldn’t be here. If it said ‘Black Lives Matter’ we wouldn’t be here, because this gives way to all sorts of selective enforcement.”

I see that “if things were different, they would be different” remains a standard for racists and their defenders.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I love how tame those examples are. None of them are targeting groups negatively, it's a completely different "type" of banner. Even if it said "Support white people in new england", it wouldn't be going to court.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 4 months ago

Great distinction. Glad you pointed this out. This is a call to exclude and a dog whistle for violence.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

"If we were over there, we wouldn't be here."

Proceeds to reenact Grover's near/far sketch

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I'm my grandmother had wheels she'd be a bike.

[–] homura1650@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Except in this case, it is directly relevant to the legal issue at hand. When deciding a free speach case, the first part of the analysis is if the restriction is content neutral or not.

A content neutral rule is held to the standard of intermintent scrutiny, and is frequently upheld. A content based rule is held to the standard of strict scrutiny and almost always struck drown.

If the rule against signs on the overpass were enforced uniformly, then the white supremesists would not have a legal leg to stand on. But, at least based on the article, the rule is not being enforced uniformly at all; and is only being brought up now due to the content of the speech. That puts it squarly in the realm of strict scrutiny; giving the government a very uphill battle in court.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago

"White supremacist banners get taken down more often than other banners" isn't actually evidence of unequal enforcement, because white supremacist banners almost certainly get reported to the cops immediately by a lot of people, whereas other banners are largely ignored if they aren't offensive. Especially because it's entirely legal to put up banners if you have a permit, so people have no reason to call the cops every time they see a banner.