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Based on the 2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf

Via a former conservative on Reddit:

  • The government won’t allow you to get an abortion even if giving birth would kill you (p.449 - 503)
  • The government won’t let you buy condoms or plan b (p.449)
  • The government will give more free money to the ultra-rich and the largest corporations (p.691)
  • The government will not allow for workers to be protected at work (p.581)
  • The government will steal your social security (p.691)
  • The government will take away Medicare (p.449)
  • The government will not let you find affordable healthcare (p.449)
  • The government will refuse to help educate our children (p.319)
  • The government will give your tax money to private schools for christians (p.319)
  • The government will force public schools to become religious schools for christians (p.319)
  • The government will fire you for the color of your skin (p545 - 581)
  • The government will tell you what you’re allowed to think (p319)
  • The government will sell our land to be permanently destroyed (p417)
  • The government will sell the arctic to oil companies (p363)
  • Big business and oil will be allowed to do whatever they want without consequences (p.363)
  • The government will tell you what a family is supposed to look like. Anything else is a crime. (p.545 - 581)
  • The government will make us deaf/blind to attack by destroying the FBI and Homeland Security (p.133)
  • The government will build concentration camps to get rid of anyone deemed un-American (p.133)
  • If you’re born in the United States you are not automatically a citizen (p.133)
  • The government will make it legal for food to be poison (p.363 - 417)

Claims without a citation yet:

  • The government will not let you get a divorce without “proof” of wrongdoing
  • Your taxes will go up
  • The government will not let you retire
  • Drugs will cost more
  • The government will let your kids go hungry while they are forced to attend these schools
  • The government will tell you what you’re allowed to read and burn the rest
  • The government will freely kill citizens they disagree with
  • The government will attack single mothers because that’s not a “traditional” family
  • The government will order our active-duty military to attack us if we protest
  • The government will make being muslim on American soil a crime
  • The government will make sure all judges are more loyal to the party than they are to the country
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[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not really relevant to their actual goal of destroying democracy, just a little culture war to throw a minority under the bus so the masses squabble over it instead of the broader, more universally opposed changes.

[–] jvw@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don't you dare minimize this. It's not a "little culture war," it's deliberate cruelty to a people that neo-nazis and Cristian-nationalists see as subhuman. It's evil and intentional.

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah but it also gets used to sweep normal people into all that neo-nazism because they're poorly educated and will believe whoever they think has authority to speak on the subject. The GOP can't be defeated by calling them evil. They have to be defeated by stopping away their authority and exposing, in plain and simple terms, how they're all hypocrites and that they will throw ALL OF US into the fire, not just the people whose identities are confusing.

The hate they are engineering is deliberate, but it isn't because they all personally hate queer people. It's because they do not care about any of us, and queer people are the easiest group to misinform the public about, so they can fear-monger and keep us putting out fires.

I'm not saying we should stop putting out the fires, I'm saying we should recognize that the fires aren't the goal.

Cruelty is happening to whomever is easiest to target for cruelty. Conservativism always leverages that to allow for hate to take deeper roots. Because people who operate solely off of hate are the easiest to control of all

[–] jvw@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah but [wall of text]

it also gets used to sweep normal people into all

Trans people are "normal people."

but it isn’t because they all personally hate queer people

Oh, but they do. They do. From the death threats to the "oh no I kissed a trans person gag sounds" "joke" to the existence of the Trans Panic defense. The ones who use us are also deadly serious with hate.

Look, I get it, your heart is in the right place. But when a minority tells you, straight out, "hey, this is not okay," pay attention, and put those hand-wavy digits in your pockets for a while.

Then let's all go fight fascism.

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
  1. Normal people in this context CLEARLY means "not fascist" not "not queer", stop being intentionally obtuse. Queer people can be normal or not normal, and so can straight cis people. They're all individuals who decide for themselves how they want to live. Fascism is never normal though.
  2. I'm not talking about the uneducated right-wing populace when I say "they don't personally hate trans people". I'm talking about the leadership of the conservative fascist movement who recognize that generating hate towards queer people will further their goals. Some of them do it because they hate trans people, others do it because it's easy to manipulate people to hate each other for things they don't understand, and hateful people are less likely to think critically about a government that affirms their hatred.

Fascism is a multi-headed hydra, and queerphobic rhetoric is only one head. We need to defeat the whole dragon to stop the head from regrowing, and the first step to accomplishing that is to recognize the dragon as a whole.

[–] jvw@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You're still doing it.

Blocked.

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Leftist infighting continues :/

Edit: this whole interaction seemed weird to me, I'm not sure if I was dealing with a troll or a kid but I found a recent comment that gives me a bit more context to who this person is: https://lemmy.world/comment/10757207

I don't really feel too bad about being blocked by someone like this