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I would for vote Kamala. I would vote for a cactus with sunglasses if it had the Democratic nomination. You would do yourself well to consider anything that is weaking the resolve of the anti-trump sentiment straight poison to your brain. We have only one job this novemeber and that is to stop trump. The Supreme Court has given him the status of king. Quit acting like your vote is sacred and start realizing your vote is your final cry before your rights are forfeited.

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[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes a figure head of the party who did all this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/WhatBidenHasDone/comments/1abyvpa/the_complete_list_what_biden_has_done/

Is just as bad as the figure head of a fascist, xenophobic, racist, authoritarian, nationalist, religious zealot party because they are both figureheads. You're right.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm not even going to start with a list put together by his base. The news can't put one together that doesn't get ripped to shreds once you actually look at it. I doubt his base has put together anything like a list that says what the policies actually do. And no the title of the bill or the PR elevator pitch has no relation to what it actually does. For example he actually severely cut EV subsidies and you all fell on your knees to thank him for it.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

Give his base a little more credit than that. They aren't dumb enough to list the inflation reduction act, they call it environmental legislation.

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Literally your best argument against this NOT ALL OF THOSE ARE REAL BECAUSE HIS SUPPORTERS COMPILED IT SO IMMA VOTE FOR A FACIST RACIST

You're fucking wild bro

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I never said I was going to vote for Trump.

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If your not voting, voting 3rd party, or voting for Trump ....any of those is a vote for Trump in America's presidential election.

Also your name is maggoty so...

And let's not get distracted from the main point by straw manning here. Your argument is ridiculous.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No. No they aren't. The only vote for Trump is an actual vote for Trump. Casting anyone who doesn't support you as an other who must support the bad guy was bullshit when Bush did it and it's bullshit now.

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No it isn't. It's literally math and logic deduction. It's the bullshit two party system's failings.

Because you only have 2 options who are going to pull enough votes to win, throwing your vote to a 3rd party is taking a vote from biden. not voting is taking a vote from biden. all of that is equal to a vote for Trump.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sure thing your majesty. We'll all support you no matter what.

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Only a vote for Trump is a vote for Trump.

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's not. Google a first past the post system and learn something. Your spouting bullshit that is reductive and intentionally inaccurate

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm well aware of the different voting types. I'm also well aware that you cannot browbeat the citizenry into liking your candidate. That is the base feature of a democracy.

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You aren't well aware of math apparently.

He's not my candidate, I just have the mental capacity to understand that it's the only choice I have in this system if I'm not a maggot trump supporter.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You know you've got to figure if someone has taken a name like Maggot, they aren't going to be insulted if you use it...

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh so you are a trump supporter then? Makes sense how you can't grasp simple concepts and constantly argue in bad faith.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Lmao. You'd like that but no.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

this is election misinformation. only a vote for trump can be counted as a vote for trump. a vote for any other candidate cannot be counted for trump.

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

when are votes for anyone but trump allowed to be counted for trump?

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

When you have a 2 party system no other candidate will ever do anything except cannibalize votes from the party they overlap the most with.

Green party takes votes from Democrats and libertarians take votes from Republicans.

Read the federalist papers. The founding fathers saw this reality coming. First past the post voting with 2 dominant parties means 3rd party voting or apathy is a vote for your opponent

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

3rd party voting or apathy is a vote for your opponent

no, it's a vote for the so-called third party or no vote at all.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Green party takes votes from Democrats

this is a myth. votes Don't belong to the Democrats. they belong to the voters. it's up to candidates to earn votes.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

this entire comment is obfuscation. I asked a specific question in response to a specific claim.