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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So?

Blinken and Biden have been lying this entire time, I don't think either one has admitted that they're openly supporting a genocide against US and international law yet

There is zero reason to believe anything the current admin says about Israel and their continuing genocide.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (4 children)

It's Netanyahu really. He prefers Trump, and will take any chance to make Biden eat shit publicly

[–] roboto@feddit.org 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean Biden is making sure to double down on his support for Israel whenever he has the chance to do so. He is pro genocide.

Trump is of course worse just for the record.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't think we're disagreeing on much here, but the issue of money in politics cannot be overlooked. For establishment US politicians, especially ones with long memories like Joe, supporting Israel is axiomatic. It's almost like Fouccault's boomerang as applied to political spending - we fund genocide because we helped to create a genocidal state, and some of that money gets funneled back to our leaders to ensure the well never runs dry.

[–] roboto@feddit.org 5 points 4 months ago

Yeah actually I 100% agree on this.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think he cares a lot more about maintaining his increasingly tenuous grip on power in Israel than what any US politician says or does.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

True, but remember that Trump recognized Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

And Biden keeps playing into his hands.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why do people keep saying that?

Putin owns trump and is allied with Israels neighbors...

Biden would start WW3 to protects Israel's ongoing genocide. trump would abandon them on a whim.

What do t you understand about that?

Why do you think there's people on social media insisting it has to be Joe but unable to give a reason? They have a reason, they just don't want to say it's Joe's unwavering support of Israel.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Did you miss the RNC chanting and cheering about how much they support Israel? Trump knows his base - he'd never turn against Israel or Netanyahu. There's a reason this exists.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So you think the one thing that can turn him from Putin and all of his blackmail and bribes is Israel?

Do you think that's because they have more blackmail/bribes on/for trump?

I just don't understand how someone could think trump would pick anything over putin, so what do you think would make him pick Israel instead?

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I just don't think Putin really cares that much about Israel.