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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 149 points 6 months ago (10 children)

... And it's still illegal to carry on federal land (including boarders). This is a win but it's a fucking minor one.

Amazingly enough after Canada legalized weed our country didn't instantly fall into anarchy.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 88 points 6 months ago (2 children)

US stayes that legalized weed had all of the predicted positive outcomes like reduced crime related to weed, increased taxes because it is taxed, etc.

You know, the obvious outcomes for anyone who doesn't buy into reefer madness.

[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 33 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The oligarchs need more time to monopolize the market. Can't have folks growing their own plants when there's money to be made now

/s because internet

[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago

When we know in reality they needed time push laws through so they can make sure to keep the prisons fill with slave labor.

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Legalizing weed would drastically reduce the prison population of America.

And we all know how bad that would be.

/s

[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

They'll figure out another way to get their slaves :/

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Who will punch all our license plates?! Imagine the cost to society! /s

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

Still waiting on Congress to decriminalize and expunge records.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3617

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Amazingly enough after Canada legalized weed our country didn't instantly fall into anarchy.

Not yet my friend, not yet /s

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 41 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Hey a half a loaf. Its Zenos paradox of legalization. With progress like this, in another 40 years we'll be another halfway there to legalization.

[–] Lukewarm_Tea@lemm.ee 29 points 6 months ago (31 children)

It will at least open up research for cannabis drug development into FDA approved products.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It also basically will legalize Medical cannabis federally. This could lead to many other benefits. Get a medical card, it's legit with the state and the feds, then there shouldn't be any grounds for drug tests to affect your employment.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

The big thing is federal contracts.

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (4 children)

That all depends on when Democrats get congressional majority. Congress is responsible for legislative decriminalization.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3617

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

For people like me who use it medicinally, this is a huge win.

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[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 6 months ago (6 children)

So it moves to be rescheduled but is just being sent to DEA for them to now think about it?

I get it's news but I don't see what is actually changing

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 28 points 6 months ago

Its the next major step in the process of getting it rescheduled. Each step could potentially end that process, so each movement forward is great news.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The DEA already agreed to the FDA’s Schedule III recommendation. Now it’s open for 60 days of public comment.

If there’s no change in mind, it gets passed to up the to both HHS and DOJ as approvals, then sent to Biden to sign off. (I think)

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (5 children)

There's two things this changes.

  1. Easier to research.

  2. We get a lot less tax money from it.

For 1, it's not that much of a gain, we don't need more studies to show it's safe. That's been accomplished, and it wasn't that hard to do a study the last couple years.

For 2, tax money was the biggest reason states could be convinced to legalize.

There's a little bit of a 3 involved. I forget the specifics from an earlier article, but I read something about while a lower schedule may let them transition from cash only to banking, the DEA can still seize all their funds because it's on the schedule. It's just now they can do it from a computer.

When they don't use banks, at least the DEA had to actually show up and ~~steal~~ seize their cash.

So say a Republican takes office and is pissed at Cali, he can tell the DEA to freeze and seize the bank accounts of every business and person connected to the cannabis industry.

And it'd all be 100% legal, take very little effort, and can easily be converted into some kind of "border security" bullshit like building a giant pointless wall.

I dunno, lately I keep getting frustrated at people never realizing what shit can naturally lead to. Maybe my standards for planning ahead need lowered?

I just don't understand why this is acceptable when Biden told us decriminalization was the goal.

A co.plete removal from the schedule would have been that, and would have accomplished a lot and taken the same effort as this. I don't see why we don't try to actually fix shit.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I don’t see why we don’t try to actually fix shit.

Because then they can't keep kicking the can down the road for the next election.

Gotta keep that voter base involved somehow, and when you aren't actually gonna give them anything to be happy about, you've got to trot out nice little lies you'll never follow through with to make them get out to vote.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Still illegal without prescription

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Will they retroactively commute sentences of people who were charged with the previous classification?

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No, because it's still illegal. This reclassification is a compromise, not a solution.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 6 points 6 months ago

baby steps.

[–] redhorsejacket@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Biden has done what he is able to do. He proclaimed presidential pardon for federal marijuana charges in late 2022. However, the executive branch has no authority to impact state level charges, which would likely be the vast majority of people affected by marijuana policing over time. In a world where government works as intended, state level organizations should take their cues from what the federal government is doing, but, as I understand it, they are not necessarily beholden to slavishly adopt the federal posture. Perhaps someone with a deeper understanding might illuminate us further.

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[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Will this allow dispenseries and retail stores to use banking?

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Probably not yet...biggest advantage of moving from Sch 1 to Sch 3 is that it means federal research grants/money can be used now to determine what the actual medicinal uses.

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[–] Veraxus@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

No. It is still a controlled substance. They have merely lowered it's classification rather than DE-classifying it entirely, which is what they should have done.

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