imagine putting windows + intel cpu on a handheld lol
this post was submitted on 18 May 2024
68 points (97.2% liked)
Technology
1421 readers
819 users here now
Which posts fit here?
Anything that is at least tangentially connected to the technology, social media platforms, informational technologies and tech policy.
Rules
1. English only
Title and associated content has to be in English.
2. Use original link
Post URL should be the original link to the article (even if paywalled) and archived copies left in the body. It allows avoiding duplicate posts when cross-posting.
3. Respectful communication
All communication has to be respectful of differing opinions, viewpoints, and experiences.
4. Inclusivity
Everyone is welcome here regardless of age, body size, visible or invisible disability, ethnicity, sex characteristics, gender identity and expression, education, socio-economic status, nationality, personal appearance, race, caste, color, religion, or sexual identity and orientation.
5. Ad hominem attacks
Any kind of personal attacks are expressly forbidden. If you can't argue your position without attacking a person's character, you already lost the argument.
6. Off-topic tangents
Stay on topic. Keep it relevant.
7. Instance rules may apply
If something is not covered by community rules, but are against lemmy.zip instance rules, they will be enforced.
Companion communities
!globalnews@lemmy.zip
!interestingshare@lemmy.zip
Icon attribution | Banner attribution
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
My steam deck runs Windows 11 at full speed to take advantage of the xbox game pass. My two surfaces both arm and intel run win 11 at full speed, I dont understand your comment. The one major complaint is that SteamOS sleep is a killer feature, not a day goes by that I do not covet it. Windows sleep does not exist and is left out in reviews but honestly to a regular person is the biggest difference, and is why I can not recommend anything other than steamdeck.
it seems that you didn't understand my comment. What I wanted to highlight is, both AMD CPU's and Linux use up less battery than Intel CPU's and Windows 11 while gaming. Why are you telling me something about "my steam deck runs windows 11 at """full speed"""(?)"? If you check GamersNexus' MSI Claw review, you'll realize that its battery life is pretty bad compared to other handhelds, arguably one of the most important stats of a handheld.
You are correct I misunderstood, I read your comment as handhelds with intel can’t windows. It is why I shifted to my surfaces, as they have xbox gaming and run other than AMD. IME windows can game on literally any platform, I linux professionally but MacOS privately, apple apps that run on x86 can not run on their m platforms because they dont support ARM #Facepalm, so the run anywhere promise of windows (which I know is fake) seems hard to beat, and I do not feel windows has overhead that these handhelds can’t overcome.
Alright no worries, my first comment was mostly just a quick jab at intels powerhungriness on desktop compared to AMD and windows 11's telemetry eating up processing power (which I also know can be turned off). Admittedly, I don't know too much about power efficiency of intel's mobile chips to comment on them in a serious way.
The worst part for me, is it sounds like it has good well thought out software, but the hardware choice crippled them. It sounds like better specs but the steamdeck (proud owner) was made on the cheap and is outclassing them at half price.
The steamdeck is a masterclass in prioritisation and optimisation, but even considering that I think valve is likely still selling most variants at a loss. The claw does seem fucking shit tho. I’d say they should have used Linux but I wouldn’t trust msi to make that work in any kind of sensible way tbh.
What baffles me is I've yet to see another handheld with touchpads that can even begin to rival the Steam Deck's.
AYANEO has them on the Retro Mini PC but they're smaller and way too far down to be comfortable to use regularly.
The touchpads are one of the Steam Deck's greatest features. They actually make it enjoyable to play games designed for use with a mouse. Why are none of the other manufacturers getting that?
Those other manufacturers didn't launch a new controller design. Valve did. It was fine and they learned how to make it great. Valve learned by experimenting with shape, button locations, track pads themselves were entirely new; it must have been a wild time in those hardware labs.
The funny thing is that reviews at the time mentions the track pad as being inspired but under baked on the Steam controller. Valve iterated and came up with something great. AYANEO just had their first attempt. Let's see how much they learn.