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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 22 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Killing is the point of land mines? Wow, Tucker must be a genius.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 5 points 4 hours ago

If the Russians stay in Russia, they'll be at no risk.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 43 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

"Killing is the point" yeah thats what happens in war.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 13 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Russians can easily avoid getting blown up by them just by staying in their country.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -2 points 2 hours ago

And Ukrainian children can easily avoid getting blown up by them by just staying indoors

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I dont the rhe Russian soldiers themselves can. But their superiors certainly can

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago

Fragging is an option.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 75 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

On the one hand, Carlson being against it makes me assume that it's probably a good thing, but on the other I'm usually pretty against the use of landmines because they have a strong tendency to sit around for a long time and maim random civilians.

But if he said the sky was blue I'd have to go check for myself.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 59 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The landmines that Biden approved are battery powered. While they are still indiscriminate killing machines, they will self-neutralize rather than remain dangerous for decades to come.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 12 points 18 hours ago

This. U do still have to worry about what the error rate is considering the vast number that will be deployed.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Yup.

I think Biden is wrong for the reasons you lay out. It won't just be the Russians that suffer from mining.

WWII ordinances still get pulled up pretty regularly in France.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, sure, because the technology is exactly the same now as it was 80 years ago.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 29 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

World War II ordinances didn't rely on batteries and so remain(ed) dangerous for far longer.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world -1 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

These are still explosive. While the triggering mechanism may go bad after the battery dies, are the explosive chemicals neutralized? What happens on a shock to the device? For example, if it's crushed by a vehicle or hit by a plow blade?

I can grant that these are probably safer than yesteryear's model, but I also think you are still setting up bobbytraps that are potentially dangerous for decades.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago

Do some research and get back to us.

[–] Strykker@programming.dev 16 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Most explosives are chemically and physically stable like c4. Driving over them isn't going to set them off, nor is hitting them with any kind of blunt force.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Hell, you can even burn C4 and it does not explode.

[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Interesting concept for a BBQ - C4 instead of charcoal.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I mean they're being invaded, and by Russia out of all countries. Just like their use of cluster ammunition, they probably decided it's worth the risk.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

Well, some of them did. Conscription is active in Ukraine which means there’s a lot of people involved against their will.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 50 points 18 hours ago

There is a simple solution - Tucker's pal Putin could GTFO of Ukraine. How about that?

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 48 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Don't step on Ukrainian land if you don't want to deal with Ukrainian land mines?

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Good thing land mines can distinguish between Ukrainians and Russians I guess?

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

They have an expiration date. Not purly for lobg term safety reasons but it also allows for more advanced tactical use cases.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Do they have fixed expiry after which the thing is inert, or just a battery that runs down after which a different energy source (or shock to the battery) is needed to trigger them?

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee -1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They have en expiry after which they explode i believe.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world -2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

And a child years after the war ends.

Landmines were internationally banned for a reason.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Iirc, these have an expiration date

Not that it fully absolves them, but better than the ones that go boom 30 years after the fact

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 17 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Come on and SLAM

If you wanna JAM

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

Tucker Carlson throws Biden off of hell in the cell and 16 feet into the announcer table for supplying land mines.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago (4 children)
[–] gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago

So fucking tired of this headline eye-grabber.

[–] GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca 5 points 18 hours ago

Oh no he didn't!

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 11 points 19 hours ago