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[–] PlainSimpleGarak@lemm.ee 30 points 8 months ago (3 children)

English: https://9to5google.com/2024/03/05/google-pixel-8a-reportedly-getting-another-price-increase/

Once again Google finds a way to ruin a good thing. With a $150 price difference between the 8a and main 8 series, I have absolutely no reason to purchase the 8a. There was a time when the A series was half the price of the main series.

[–] silent_squirrel@feddit.de 10 points 8 months ago

When the 7a launched the regular 7 was almost the same price already, so the gap is actually bigger than last year. But I guess they'll just make the upcoming Pixel 9 more expensive as well to restore the gap again.

[–] Extrasvhx9he 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The a stands for "almost the same price" now

[–] Chup@feddit.de 8 points 8 months ago

I think the article only mentions the prices in the Google store, which are way more expensive than other shops. The Pixel 8 128GB is currently available at 550€.

So the Pixel 8a at 570€ would be the more expensive model.

[–] gila@lemm.ee 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The only reason we have $2k flagships is because they have more premium features which people with lots of disposable income would want to buy. But where are these features now? Provided you aren't shoving extra displays in your device for kicks, everything is ubiquitous (or you're just paying extra for a SaaS unlock). If Tensor G3 sucks like G2 sucks, that impacts all Pixel 8's, not just the A.

There's no more space in the market for an A model and a flagship model. In terms of being the appropriate option for the average person looking for a new phone (i.e what a flagship actually is in principle), the A model is the flagship now.

That's why the price is increasing - it's too popular, they've realised price is once again the driving factor behind most purchase decisions and are now acting to try and preserve the status quo of people buying needlessly expensive handsets for no reason.

[–] exocrinous@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I bought a Pixel a because it has a headphone jack. I only cared about one thing. When mine dies, I'll buy whatever still has a headphone jack.

Unfortunately the 5a was the last pixel with a headphone jack.

[–] gila@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

I'm not sure about pixel 8/8a,, but I'm typing this on a pixel 7 and it sure ain't got no headphone jack, Jack. If that was my prerogative I'd be using a budget Xiaomi device

[–] crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

This just gets worse and worse, but I still think the lack of sd card slot is the worst thing they never included in the pixel series, and now they are going ahead and fucking with the A series so that it's barelly any cheaper than the flagship?

Google needs to take a steap back and reconsider it.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Card slot? Do you mean sdcard or sim?

[–] crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz 2 points 8 months ago

Sd card of course, more impottant to me than a freaking sim card slot.

[–] lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Aside from the Nexus One, Google phones have not had micro SD card slots. It's crazy how one part of the company (Google Drive) can influence the other (Nexus/Pixel).

Then again, Samsung makes micro SD cards and gutted the slot from their S series too..

I had the 8 GB Nexus 4 and it was annoying to have to clear cache from apps ever so often.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, so no Pixel 8a? What the hell will I buy when the last half-tolerable Pixel (6a) gets no updates anymore?

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I've had Pixels pretty much the whole time since the Pixel 2, I've dailied every generation except the OG and the 6a, coincidentally. I'm on the 7 now and really like it after thinking the 6 was hot trash. Out of curiosity, why is the 7 "intolerable"? What makes the 6a better?

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 3 points 8 months ago

6a has a plastic back and is smaller. I want a phone not a tablet and it shouldnt crack.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

6a has a plastic back and is smaller. I want a phone not a tablet and it shouldnt crack.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago

My Paul Bunyan hands are still waiting for a big enough pixel.

[–] angrynomad@infosec.pub 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Stick divestos or calyxos on that and you're good for more years

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No youre not. Calyx is a joke, sorry. DivestOS may be okay but its still very different from GrapheneOS.

And no tiny custom Android can fix the issue that hardware manifacturers will not supply a single byte of firmware updates after their contract is done.

[–] angrynomad@infosec.pub 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

True discontinued firmware updates.., but look at the actual threat model. Why is calyx a joke?

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

(Feddit just started working again)

CalyxOS implements many random 3rd party stuff as if that was their own.

Apart from 2 (QKSMS and Bromite) being unmaintained, installing random apps as system apps (if this is what they do) means a system update may cause data loss for users, when removing those apps. And it has the problem of a way too high goal that can not be reached. They simply dont maintain those apps, so dont ship them.

[–] angrynomad@infosec.pub 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

How much maintenance does a simple SMS app need? What random apps are system apps? Beomite is not installed, not even sure qksms is, but I always use it. Never had a single issue removing any apps. Seems like you're just very uninformed

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

They had this on their homepage, advertizing QKSMS and Bromite as if they were project apps. Which they are not.

So either A: they preinstall apps as system apps or B: they have some form of installer that installs them as normal user apps.

You should have as many apps as user apps as possible.

Maybe they changes this idk. But QKSMS is not a simple SMS app like the one that GrapheneOS implements (the old and hardly maintained AOSP one) and Bromite is an unmaintained Browser which is a huge problem. Cromite and Quik are maintained forks.

Some Archive when they still had Bromite on their page

Could not find QKSMS but that was somewhere

[–] angrynomad@infosec.pub 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Chromium BASED on chromite, which appears to be actively developed. I use mull which works well. Default SMS is "messaging" app.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Interesting. What are the App IDs of those both apps?

If they base on Chromite that is probably fine.

[–] angrynomad@infosec.pub 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

org.chromium.chrome

com.android.messaging

Idk if I would promote calyxos though, it works, but it's often buggy for me. I think I'll go with graphene again, the microg shit is just that..

And mull https://f-droid.org/packages/us.spotco.fennec_dos/ Which I think is maintained by divestos, another interesting one, I forget why I didn't go with them

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 6 months ago

I am pretty happy with GrapheneOS. Things like separate toggles for internet, or long powerbutton press foe torch are missing.

But you cannot imagine how much effort it is to maintain such a project, and their base is stable, the updates are damn fast.

First stability and security, then features.

Their core OS is minimal on purpose. I use the phone, vanadium (hardened chromium, with JIT toggle, now with adblock, completely degoogled), their attestation app, etc.

Most of the other stuff are random FOSS projects, I dont even use sandboxed play, but if I wanted to I could create a separate user profile and install it just in there.

DivestOS is doing sandboxed microG which is way more secure than unsandboxed, but still tons of effort and will break a lot.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 6 months ago

Btw get Mull from the DivestOS repo, the F-Droid version has veeery slow updates and less.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Fuck Google and their phones, I got fucked by the 5a screen problem just after the warranty expired.

[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I honestly don't know why Google bothers to make the "a" series of Pixels.

Surely the regular Pixel sells so poorly that they are ahead loosing money on it. Why lose even more by making the cheaper a?

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

Aaand only ugly colors again. Google, what about dark blue, silver or other normal colors?

And glass back too? Such a garbage