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[–] cygon@lemmy.world 148 points 7 months ago (4 children)

If you were alive (and online) during the 90s, you may remember the banter between Microsoft and General Motors:

From https://crysa.fzu.cz/ondra/documents/cars_like_windows.html (the only online copy I could find)

Bill Gates reportedly compared the computer industry with the auto industry and stated, "If GM had kept up with technology like the computer industry has, we would all be driving twenty-five-dollar cars that get 1,000 miles to the gallon."

In response to Bill's comments, General Motors issued a press release stating: If GM had developed technology like Microsoft, we would all be driving cars with the following characteristics:

[...]

  1. The oil, water temperature, and alternator warning lights would be replaced by a single "general car error" warning light.

  2. New seats would force everyone to have the same size butt.

  3. The airbag system would ask "Are You Sure?" before going off.

  4. Occasionally, for no reason whatsoever, your car would lock you out and refuse to let you in until you simultaneously lifted the door handle, turned the key, and grabbed a hold of the radio antenna.

30 years later, some of those jokes are finally becoming reality, thanks to Tesla.

[–] Another3quenc@lemmy.world 118 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The Macintosh one is wild

“6. Macintosh would make a car that was powered by the sun, reliable, five times as fast, and twice as easy to drive, but would only run on 5 percent of the roads."

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 44 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Love the scene from the Steve Jobs movie where Woz asks Steve if in order to send an email on the NEXT computer the recipient would also need to have an NEXT computer.

Of course!

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Basically iMessaging and FaceTime.

Blows my mind that literally every other brand of phone has settled on a standard for rich messaging and video calls, but Apple had to make a big stink about it and pinky-promise it'll be out this year.

And all the Apple users act like everybody else is inferior...while they're the only ones that are incompatible.

I bought an iPhone 12 specifically because I was tired of potato-grams between my wife and I. I switched back to Android a couple weeks ago on that pinky-promise.

Among several other Apple-isms, this one blows my mind then most.

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[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago (7 children)

My experience with Macs was not anything like that. Not super intuitive to figure out, which was made more frustrating by how slow it was, which was made more frustrating by the crashes and having to start all over again.

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[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 18 points 7 months ago

Ironically the errors a Tesla throws are very detailed, and tell you exactly what's wrong. GM's error messages are literally an incomprehensible glyph that, when backlit, might mean there's a problem.

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 17 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I've heard of Tesla owners being unable to get into their car because their wireless-only key fob was to close to a radio dish and was being effectively jammed. The owner had to go under the car and hide the remote from the radar dish to get it to unlock

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[–] GrymEdm@lemmy.world 93 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 50 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] rovingnothing29@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN!?

[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There's a small difference between US Letter and A4. If you have A4 in your printer but use "default" settings which would be US Letter, the printer warns you, correctly, in the same way that it should warn you if you've got a load of A5 in your printer but want an A4 print.

Never seen it but I hypothesise that if it were the other way round you'd see PC LOAD A4.

[–] meleethecat@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You’re exactly right. Those words just to you to load letter size paper in the paper cartridge (PC). You could also see PC LOAD LEGAL to load legal size paper or maybe MF LOAD LETTER to load letter size paper in the manual feeder (eg if you need to print something on letterhead).

[–] GrymEdm@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

MF LOAD LETTER

When your printer is voiced by Samuel L. Jackson.

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 60 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Most modern computerized cars are like this sadly, but i think tesla is the worst one them all

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 55 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Wiper fluid empty. Car shutting down."

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[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 39 points 7 months ago (4 children)

So for the record, I had a non-EV car scream bloody murder, barely drivable, ABS triggering randomly, 10 warnings whenever you turned it on, and in the end it was one little burnt out sensor that caused it all.

I wouldn't buy a tesla considering all the dodgy stuff that has come out, but non-EVs are just as susceptable to the printer analogy.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (12 children)

I've had my car's transmission go out and keep putting itself in limp mode (won't go above 40mph) but I could still actually drive it and open the doors and windows. I just read an article of a woman who got locked into her Tesla because the fucker started updating. That's a problem literally no other cars have, nor should they.

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[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 32 points 7 months ago (8 children)

I don't get this. I live in the sweet spot for ev ownership: in an area with rich liberals who like outwardly show they care about the environment.

4 people on my block have Teslas. All of them say they love the car. The guy who lives across the street from me says his only regret is that he didn't get the AWD version because his sucks in the snow. My boss owns a Tesla, said he would absolutely buy one again. My cousin leased one and said that when he goes to buy a car, it would likely be a Tesla. One of my best friends bought one, and loves it. I rented one (it was 15 dollars more a day, with free charging, so I'm pretty sure it more than made up the cost) and it was mostly a pleasure to drive (not a big fan of the touch screen for everything).

According to Consumer Reports, Tesla is one of the top brands for owner satisfaction.

Yet here on lemmy, you would think that owning a Tesla is some kind of miserable experience. I can't help but believe it's driven by a dislike of musk, rather than Teslas actually being bad cars.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 25 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I think our bias is that a huge portion of us are scientists and engineers, so the things that bother us aren't the same things that bother everyone else. Most people don't worry about how their car works, or want to repair it themselves, etc.

It's not the car for a Linux user.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Im not buying this. If it could be demonstrated, I'd be willing to bet that at least 99% of the people who upvoted this have never even changed a spark plug, let alone anything actually complicated or difficult with their car.

It's clearly en vogue on lemmy to hate on Tesla, which is almost certainly why this has so many upvotes. I just don't get why people have to pretend the cars are shit when seemingly it's really about hating musk.

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

I'm part of that 1% and I'll echo the "Tesla hate" for that very reason. I do the vast majority of maintenance and repair on my vehicles -- something I picked up as a broke young man that couldn't afford to do otherwise.

I'm not buying something that's designed to actively prevent me from working on it myself. And the other "99%" of people are absolutely right in being upset since independent repair shops are no longer an option. With no competition they're at the whim of Tesla when it comes to the cost and time-frame of repair work.

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[–] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Elon Musk is a trash person, that's why I don't like Tesla

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[–] PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I think half of it is Elon Musk and the other half are the news stories about the numerous problems they seem to have.

There are some things that Tesla does wrong, but a lot of these issues are also found in other EVs. It's a car for somebody who is fine using Apple products.

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[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I love my Tesla and hate musk with the fire of a billion suns.

I'm sorry haters, but Teslas are absolutely fantastic cars to own and drive, in my 2 years of owning one. ZERO ISSUES and 100,000km down.

That said the only reason I'll not buy one NEXT is because that nazi fuck head is attached to the brand and has poisoned the joy of owning it.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've been thinking of buying a EV for a while now. Tesla was obviously the top of the list. Now it's kind of the bottom of the list.

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[–] TronnaRaps@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 months ago

Love my Tesla, wouldn't go back to an ice car. I'm not particularly a fan of Musk, but I'm definitely a fan of the science and engineering being done across his companies. Comparing a ownership of a printer to owning a Tesla? Kind of a lame joke

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (4 children)

For the most part, the cars are fine. I really enjoy working on a car and find pleasure in purely mechanical things. I like internal combustion engines.

Sure, I think Musk is an idiot. But it's much more that I think Teslas are overrated. My biggest gripe is the arbitrary changing of existing user controls and their ethos of the car should anticipate and do things for me. I don't want the car to do anything unless I tell it to. Even if it is something as simple as turn signals.

  • I don't want solenoids for car handles.
  • I don't want controls on a fucking touchscreen.
  • I don't want automatic updates.
  • I don't want subscriptions.
  • I don't want to be able to change the horn (because a horn is supposed to be a safety item and sound a certain way.)
  • I don't want stupid games on the touchscreen.

On top of all that, I think they are pretty ugly too.

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[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago (8 children)

I think the bar is pretty high for EVs. I have a non-Telsa EV, and the driving experience is just so nice. Even if the rest of the car had a bunch of issues I would imagine the way that Teslas drive would be enough to still make people love them. They would probably love a better built EV more.

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[–] Shou@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago (8 children)

How dare you. My brother laser printer is fantastic. I'm not even sure if it uses ink.

[–] hedidwot@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Nope... Uses toner instead, and is typically much longer lasting than ink, doesn't clog like ink, cheaper per page than ink.

Doesn't do as good at extreme quality photographs as ink but does everything else better than ink.

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[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago (12 children)

I own a brother printer and never have had an issue. Only had to buy toner once in like ten years. I've had a Tesla for 3 years and will probably have to buy tires in another two years when I get to like 45,000 miles.

So yeah, this tracks I guess?

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[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Forgot to say "ink jet"...

...and "Windows 95"

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