Tavarin

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[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Anarchist societies didn't have currency. They used bartering.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yet you keep acting like it. Currency came well after governments, because you need a government to regulate the value of currency and give it stability.

Bartering existed before currency, perhaps you're thinking of bartering and confusing it with the idea of money. They are not the same thing in case you weren't aware.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago

Ah, cool. So weed is money. Understood.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Here you go, government evolved with agriculture, and predates currency:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/government

Also your book doesn't say currency predates government.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Why do you think modern governments are the only type of government there has ever been? Tribal governments, elder councils, feudal governments, republics, pharoahs, god-kings, etc... Ever since people have lived in groups they have followed some sort of governance.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (12 children)

That tribes have governments? Yes, it's called tribal governance. Literally any power structure dictating the lives of a group of people is their government.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (23 children)

You think that governments didn't exist thousands of years ago? Governments predate debt and money, by a long shot because guess what, ever since we've been tribes we've had governments. A tribe is a government.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yet I have been to thousands, and not a one has taken bitcoin.

Just because some drug dealers like to use it, does not make it real money.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

Yeah, drug dealers. But even they convert it back to real money when they need to buy things.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago (31 children)

Money doesn't predate governments, governments have been around since the earliest tribes, and bartering was the most common way to exchange goods until large governments started issuing currency.

And no, there aren't. I can't walk into any store anywhere I have been and buy goods with bitcoin, nor can I use bitcoin on any of the online shops I have ever been to.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago (34 children)

No government backing, and I can't use it anywhere. The only way for me to use Cryptocurrency as money in 99.9% of the places I shop is to exchange said crypto for real money.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

An extremely consistent, useful, and accurate approximation of course, good enough to make important decisions with.

Honestly, that is truth. The word truth has been bastardized by common use, but in science a theory is truth.

And there are also established facts in science, you keep forgetting about those.

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