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• The title refers to the Homer’s “Odyssey” when Odysseus’ voyage reached the land of the Lotus-eaters. These people’s primary food source was the fruit and flowers of the lotus, which was powerfully narcotic, and caused those of Homer’s crew who ate it to forget their desire to return home.

• Pike’s personal log records the stardate as 1630.1. Ortegas’ personal logs record the stardate as 1630.3, and 1632.2.

Episode Stardate
“The Broken Circle” 2369.2
“Ad Astra per Aspera” 2393.8
”Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow” 1581.2

• The USS Cayuga previously appeared in “A Quality of Mercy”.

• Captain Batel gives Pike an Opelian mariner’s keystone, a device worn by ancient Opelian captains to ”guide lost sailors home.” Another reference to Odysseus’ journey.

    • Batel says she found the keystone on a planet which the subtitles spelled ”Galt.” Worf lived for a time on Gault with his adopted mother and brother, and headbutt another child to death there during a soccer match; that world’s name was pronounced the same as this.

• Captain Patel was passed over for a promotion to commodore; she believes it’s a result of Admiral Pasalk punishing her for losing the trial against Number One in “Ad Astra per Aspera”.

• Rigel VII was first mentioned in “The Menagerie, Part I”. Pike and crew were shown via Talosian record, and Pike and Doctor Boyce discussed losing three crew people on the away mission, and its impact on Pike. In “The Menagerie, Part II” we saw that the Talosians forced Pike to relive his fight with one of the brutish Kalar.

• Number One describes Rigel VII as ”a remote M-class planet”. However, there are several other inhabited worlds in the Rigel system:

    • Rigel II - According to “Shore Leave”, Bones was familiar with two women from a chorus line in a cabaret there

    • Rigel III - In the alternate future of “All Good Things…” Geordi retired to this world with his wife to become an author

    • Rigel IV - The entity Jack the Ripper resided there for a while, murdering women to feed its need for fear, and possessed Hengeist before moving on to Argelius II to continue in “Wolf in the Fold”

    • Rigel V - The homeworld of the Rigelians, first mentioned in “Journey to Babel”

    • Rigel VI - I would argue that the canonicity of this world being habitable is dubious at best, as it’s only mentioned on a menu screen in the post credits commercial for Tribbles cereal at the end of “The Trouble with Edward”

    • Rigel X - A colony world occupied by a wide variety of aliens, seen in “Broken Bow”.

    • Rigel XII - The earliest mention of a planet in the Rigel system, in “Mudd’s Women” the USS Enterprise stopped there to negotiate purchase of lithium crystals to replace the cracked lithium crystal circuits necessary for controlling the ship’s power flow from the warp core.

    • The “Star Trek: Star Charts” have attempted to reconcile this abundance of worlds by relabelling the Rigel star close to the Sol system in the star chart seen in “Star Trek: The Motion Picture” as Beta Rigel. This would be where Rigel X is located, considering it was the first planet visited by the NX-01 after launching from Earth. Presumably, Rigel II, Rigel III, Rigel IV, and Rigel V as well. Rigel VII and Rigel XII would be more remote, where the actual Rigel star is, some 860 light years from Earth. The map of the Alpha and Beta quadrants seen in Admiral Clancy’s office in “Remembrance” did have that star labelled as Beta Rigel as well, but there is nothing official stating that the various worlds are in that system.

• The display for information for the Enterprise’s first mission to Rigel VII, five years earlier, says the stardate was 2455.4. If Pike is Odysseus, I am Sisyphus.

”Last time we went down there we were in uniform; I am not making that mistake twice.” Despite the prime directive an concerns about altering cultural development, during TOS it still seemed to be general policy for Starfleet crews to beam down to pre-warp civilizations in uniform, with their gear.

”I like her,” Number One says of Batel, the woman who arrested her in “A Quality of Mercy”, and prosecuted criminal charges against her based solely on her species in “Ad Astra per Aspera”.

• In her quarters, Ortegas has models of Constitution, Walker, and NX-class starships.

• Ortegas refers to the Kalar as Kalarans. Apparently ”Recon 101” does not include more than skimming the mission brief.

”I may not be Erica Ortegas, but I was a test pilot, remember?” “Light and Shadows” established that Pike’s first assignment out of Starfleet Academy was test pilot.

• The away team’s shuttle is the Cervantes, which was introduced in “All Those Who Wander”.

”We’ve got subdermal universal translators.” This is the first mention of Starfleet personnel having translators implanted beneath the skin. In “Little Green Men” we saw that Ferengi had translators implanted in the ear canal, but Starfleet translators have always been part of the communicator or combadge, a function of the ship or station, or a wholly separate device.

• The Kalar palace is featured in season two’s opening credits.

• The type-3 phasers the Kalar carry are identical to the ones introduced in season one of DIS.

    • The Kalar have at least eight type-3s, which raises the question of how many they took with them to during the first away mission.

• Yeoman Zac Nguyen has been taken in by the Kalar and given a position of authority as High Lord Zacarias.

    • In "Bread and Circuses", Merchant Marine captain, and Starfleet Academy dropout, R.M. Merik was stranded on a planet where he became First Citizen Merikus of a society that mirrored Earth's Roman empire.

    • In "Patterns of Force", former Starfleet Academy history instructor, John Gill introduced the planet Ekos to the concept of fascism, and set himself up as Fuhrer, because he believed fascism to be the most efficient form of government, meaning John Gill was terrible at both understanding history, and not getting assassinated by members of the explicitly Nazi party he installed on an independent world.

    • In “The Omega Glory”, Captain Tracey integrated himself with the Kohms assumed a position of authority.

    • In “All the World’s a Stage” we saw the Enderprizians, who took in ensign David Garrovick and made him to be a heroic figure, En Son.

• The radiation affecting the Enterprise crew doesn’t appear to be something Number One’s Illyrian healing glow works against, despite the fact that we’ve seen her survive the radiation of a near warp core breach in “Ghosts of Illyria”.

• Ortegas’ file says she was born in 2233, making her 26 years old. Melissa Navia is 38.

    • The files specifies, “Lieutenant Ortegas is a 23rd century Federation Starfleet officer.” Presumably it’s necessary for the files to have information about the century in which an officer serves due to all the time travel.

• The Enterprise computer illuminates wall panels to guide Ortegas to her quarters. In “Encounter at Farpoint” Riker was guided to the holodeck and Data by a similar system.

• La’an and Doctor M’Benga once again share the gesture where they trace a line under the right eye with their index finger. They did this in “Strange New Worlds” and “The Broken Circle”.

• Pike makes the decision to remove the asteroid emitting the radiation causing the Kalar to forget from the surface of the planet, back to the debris field in orbit. Spock asks if it’s a violation of the Prime Directive, and Pike claims that it’s not because the asteroid interfered with the natural development of the planet for thousands of years. We’ve previously seen Pike make such unilateral decisions to ignore General Order 1 in “The Sound of Thunder” when the USS Discovery was used to amplify a signal that triggered puberty for every Kelpien on Kaminar.

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I haven’t enjoyed TNG really at all so I slowed down on my journey of watching all of Star Trek in order. However tonight I decided to watch a episode. That episode was The Measure Of A Man. This episode is truly a diamond in the rough in my opinion. This episode is exactly why I fell in love with Star Trek in the first place! A show where it’s not all surrounded by endless fighting or war. A show that demonstrates how powerful a voice can be. I don’t wanna spoil this episode for anyone who hasn’t watched it so I highly recommend to go watch it as soon as possible. I’ll say this however. Data and Picard and Rikker are now my favorite trio after this episode ❤️

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spoilermoneyless socialist utopia
I mean, we all know that's what it is, but I'm pretty sure that's the first time they've said it straight out in universe. And then the plot reminds of it several times as that very thing is put in danger.

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Hall H, Saturday, July 22, 1:30 PM - 3:00 PM

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Just about to finish TNG Season 2, I only watched the odd episode on television in the 90's and ST: Enterprise is the only complete series I have binged.

So I saw Measure of a Man which was great, in addition to that one, what episodes should I look forward to?

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That is all.

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Written by Kirsten Beyer & Davy Perez

Directed by Eduardo Sanchez


LoglineReturning to a planet that dredges up tragic memories, Captain Pike and his landing party find themselves forgetting everything, including their own identities as he confronts a ghost from his past.

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@startrek Did anyone else read Jammer's Reviews as a kid? Did you know this guy's still pumping out reviews?

I wonder if the producers ever took his feedback seriously, or if he's even on their radar.

https://www.jammersreviews.com/st-snw/s2/tomorrow.php

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Highly recommended podcast for anyone who loves film scores or music in general. The host is a sound designer & editor for Skywalker Sound, has done extensive sound work for Lucasfilm and Lucasarts games, and is also a prolific voice actor appearing in dozens of animated series and video games. He brings his sonic expertise to bear in analyzing the great scores of cinema and other media, from Jaws to Tron to Super Mario Bros. & Zelda. It's an incredibly well-produced show that sounds great and will always leave you feeling enriched and entertained.

In these two latest episodes, he takes a great deep dive into the music of Star Trek, the original series. It's a detailed look at an underappreciated aspect of the franchise, with archive interviews from people like Nimoy and Roddenberry, many many sound clips, and lots of insightful commentary.

One fun tidbit from this episode: Alexander Courage himself made the sound of the Enterprise whooshing past during the opening credits.

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spoiler

  • The very first time travel episode of Trek also had the word ”Tomorrow” in the title, “Tomorrow is Yesterday”.

  • La’an’s security officer’s log records the stardate as 1581.2. So I guess we’re doing this again. You had me for two episodes, SNW.

Episode Stardate
“The Broken Circle” 2369.2
“Ad Astra per Aspera” 2393.8
  • Spock assures La’an he ”shall make every effort to practice less vigorously going forward.”Practicing the lute” is a well known Vulcan euphemism first mentioned in the VOY episode “Body and Soul”.

  • Among the artifacts in Pelia’s collection:

    • “The Monet Family in Their Garden at Argenteuil” by Edouard Manet

    • A gyroscope

    • A print of Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address

    • An Egyptian pharaoh’s headdress with crossed crook and flail

    • “The Concert” by Johannes Vermeer - which actually was stolen in 1990 and has yet to be recovered - despite what the episode says, the painting was stolen from the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum, not the Louvre (unless it is found, put on display, and stolen again before the events of this episode)

  • The device the Department of Temporal Investigations agent gives La’an projects a graphic of the timeline based on the one shown to Seven of Nine by the crew of the 29th century USS Relativity in “Relativity”

  • The bridge of the United Earth Fleet USS Enterprise has displays in blue and green, whereas the timeline we’re familiar with, the Starfleet USS Enterprise has those same displays in orange.

    • Other than some colour settings on the displays, and the badges on the uniforms, nothing else seems to have changed. The uniforms still even have the division patterns on the yokes, identical to those of the prime timeline.
  • The captain appears to be Sam Kirk’s brother, James T. Kirk, whom we previously saw in “A Quality of Mercy”.

  • Captain Spock’s Sh’Rel appears to reuse the Vulcan cruiser model introduced as a small transport in “Lethe”. The same model was used for Vulcan fighters in the Confederation timeline in “Penance” and as a much larger warship in “Dominion”.

  • ”You know…maple leafs, politeness, poutine.” As a Canadian, I’m sorry you all were subjected to such a dismissive breakdown of our national character.

  • UEF Kirk was born on the USS Iowa. Prime timeline Kirk was born in Riverside, Iowa.

    • Kelvin Kirk was born aboard a the USS Kelvin’s medical shuttle 37. Early in production for 2009’s “Star Trek” the Kelvin was going to be the USS Iowa, but according to Alex Kurtzman in an interview, "Then we decided that was too radical."
  • ”I’m from space.” This line is a callback to Kirk in “Star Trek: The Voyage Home” where he said, ”No, I'm from Iowa. I only work in outer space.”

  • Kirk wins a significant amount of cash playing chess. ”I used to play all the time with my first officer.” Prime timeline Kirk played 3d chess with Spock in “Where No Man Has Gone Before”, “Charlie X”, and in “Court Martial” Kirk teases Spock by telling him he may be able to beat his next captain at the game.

    • The $20 bills we see appear to all still feature Queen Elizabeth II’s portrait, despite the fact that this episode presumably takes place after 2024. Which would seem to indicate that the process of replacing the queen’s portrait with that of King Chuck III is really dragging, and not that this episode was filmed on location seven months before the queen’s passing in 2022.

    • The song that plays during the chess montage is “This Is It” by The Home of Happy, produced in 2021.

    • Things the money Kirk wins is able to purchase:

      • Three hotdogs

      • A nice hotel room

      • A bribe large enough to cross the Canadian-American boarder without identification immediately after a terrorist attack

      • A taxi ride

      • Four bus rides

      • Whatever combination of taxi and buses are necessary to return to Toronto

      • A bribe large enough to cross the boarder back into Canada immediately after a terrorist attack

  • Kirk disables a bystander with nerve pinch, claiming a Vulcan cellmate in a Denobulan prison taught him how to perform the technique. In “The Omega Glory” prime timeline Kirk lamented that Spock was unable to teach him how to execute a nerve pinch to which Spock replied, ”I have tried, Captain.”

  • Plomeek soup was first mentioned in “Amok Time”.

  • Kirk’s initial difficulty driving the stolen car mirror’s prime timeline Kirk’s issues in “A Piece of the Action”. To be fair, the automobile in “A Piece of the Action” had a manual transmission.

    • We never saw if Kelvin Kirk had any problems getting the car he stole from his step-father started in 2009’s “Star Trek”.
  • Kirk’s middle name, Tiberius, was established in the TAS episode, “Bem”. Prior to that, the only indication of what his middle name might be was in the second pilot, “Where No Man Has Gone Before” when Gary Mitchell created a tombstone reading ”James R. Kirk”. The episode ends with Kirk thinking aloud to himself, ”Did Gary think my middle name is Riberius?”

  • “Most people call him George.” In “What Are Little Girls Made Of” the android duplicate of Kirk infused with his memories claims that only Kirk calls his brother Sam, but in “Operation -- Annihilate!” both Bones and Sam’s wife also call him Sam and the name George is never mentioned.

  • Kirk mistakenly calls La’an “Noonien-Soong.” We know from “Farewell” that Adam Soong has some involvement with Project Khan, which presumably led to the genetic modification of her ancestor, Khan Noonien Singh.

  • The song that plays during the car chase is “Modern Art” by the Black Lips, produced in 2011.

  • “Ok, so Chernobyl, Tunguska, JFK, random gas leak explosions…all of it is about slowing down human progress.” Gene Roddenberry proposed a plot for a “Star Trek III” movie about the crew of the Enterprise needing to travel back in time to stop Klingons from assassinating JFK.

  • The images on Sera’s tablet are:

    • A crater on the moon

    • The World Trade Centre attack

    • Crop circles

    • Toronto City hall - also seen through an Iconian gateway in “Contagion”

    • A Romulan Bird-of-Prey - this appears to be the newer digital model used in “Stardust City Rag” and “A Quality of Mercy” - notably, this BoP lacks the painted bird on the underside

  • Khan Noonien Singh was introduced in “Space Seed” where Scotty said of him, *”I must confess, gentlemen, I’ve always had a sneaking admiration for this one.” After learning that Khan is Canadian, I suddenly understand where Scotty and Kirk were coming from in that episode when they expressed they admired Khan. Notably James Doohan and William Shatner are also Canadian.

  • Among the drawings outside L’il Khan’s room there is also a drawing of a Babylonian tablet he appears to be translating.

  • ”--and all this is supposed to happen back in 1992, and I’ve been stuck here for 30 years!” In “Space Seed” it is stated by Spock that Khan ruled more than a quarter of the world from 1992 until 1996. In “Farwell” the funding report for Project Khan that Adam Soong had was dated 1996. We also saw the USS Voyager travel to 1996 in “Future’s End” and “Future’s End, Part II” and there is no mention or indication of the Eugenics Wars. “Strange New Worlds” established that the Eugenics Wars happened in the 21st century.

    • Spock also says in “Space Seed” that “Records of that period are fragmentary.”
  • After she’s shot, Sera activates a something in her neck which causes her body to disintegrate, similar to what we see the Tal’Shiar assassins do in “Remembrance” and “The End is the Beginning”.

  • Upon being prompted, L’il Khan indicates that the photo of himself and six other children shows ”others like [him].” In “Space Seed” there were 84 augments aboard the SS Botany Bay, though 12 of them died due to faulty suspended animation pods. In “Star Trek Into Darkness” Section 31 found Khan and 72 other augments aboard the ship.

  • La’an leaves Sera’s loaded gun in L’il Khan’s room, and though it’s not explicitly said, I feel like we might know how the superior man makes his escape from a Toronto stripmall cold fusion plant, and becomes ruler of a quarter of the planet.

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cross-posted from: https://diode.zone/videos/watch/2695ee8b-be6f-4f35-87cb-a2ea45f5395c

I found this cover while looking for peertube channels to follow. The artist also has some pretty awesome covers from various video games if you are into that sort of thing.

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As Janeway would have it, temporal mechanics can make our heads hurt.

Several of us here are still wrapping our minds around the implications of SNW 2 x 3 Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow for the Prime Universe timeline. The Romulan agent confirmed that key events in history have been resilient to temporal incursions, but their exact dates may change as time heals itself.

While this appears to warrant some deep dives on c/Daystrom Institute once we’ve had a bit of time to process this onscreen confirmation a bit more, I thought to look back to see what astrophysicist and Star Trek science consultant Dr Erin MacDonald has said previously on this point.

At the main link above, there is an episode of MacDonald’s Astrometric Episode Club where she reviews the temporal science of Voyager Relativity and DS9 Children of Time that appears on point.

There’s a few passing references to other time travel incidents along the way. These touch on the resilience of time, not least the causality loop in First Contact where the Borg incursion into the 21st century causes Enterprise to return and get Cochrane into space when needed even though the events weren’t quite as they were originally. The timeline is preserved in this essential key event no matter the details.

There’s also a report on Time Travel on StarTrek.com about an STLV 2019 presentation by Dr Erin MacDonald. (The piece itself was written by a professor of physics and astronomy.)

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Fortinet was blocking this website as spam, submitted change and is now categorizing this as entertainment (?). Better than spam anyway.

NOTE: I hereby propose a category !meta@startrek.website .

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Spiner himself explained,

One of the ideas that John Logan and I had about what the next film would have been was a Justice League of Star Trek. Something would bring all the great Star Trek villains together, from Khan to Shinzon, and Picard is the only person who could stop them and he actually has to go through time and pluck out the people he needs to help him. He goes back to the moment before Data blows up and takes him back to get Kirk and Spock, and go even further back and get Scott Bakula's character, Archer.

I can't imagine it would have been good, but boy do I wish I existed in a universe where this movie had been made.

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The same swooping blue frame, the same diagonal branching timeline visualization, the same hub-and-spoke layout ... chef's kiss.

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With all of the language models (ChatGPT, LLaMa, Bard, etc.) popping up, I wanted to rewatch Voyager due to the character development of the doctor and Seven to reawaken my imagination.

I found first season available (with ads) but can’t stream other seasons except on something called Paramount+. I read through the fine print and won’t ever be subscribing to that abusive service. Anyone know where else I might be able to stream the show? Looks like about $80-90 to buy the complete series… ugh

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We've been investigating some recurring issues with the user experience on the instance, and have traced it back to the way Lemmy handles language settings.

Here's the TL;DR on how to ensure you see all of the content on this instance:

In your user settings, make sure "Language" is set to both "English" and "Undetermined". You can select additional languages as well, but they aren't currently allowed on this server.

On desktop, you can use CTRL+click to select both options.

This will allow you to see content for which the author has not set a language, and content which has been set to "English".

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Gizmodo’s James Whitbrook has yet more to vent on Paramount+‘s cancelation and erasure of Prodigy.

I hadn’t considered the cancelation from the perspective of systemic misogyny, which Whitbrook effectively is carating.

However, given that Janeway was surely chosen as the legacy captain for Prodigy because Voyager had proven itself to be an effective gateway for younger and new viewers on Netflix, Whitbrook’s inference Paramount views her less important to the franchise than Picard is biting.

Paramount wouldn’t dare treat what it’s done for Patrick Stewart and Jean-Luc Picard as a tax break. Casting aside everything that Prodigy stood for, and in the process doing the same to Mulgrew and Janeway’s legacy, is a cruel twist on what is already a cruel fate for the show.

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Despite the impact of the WGA strike on promotional activities, and the lack of the boost of a major sports event trailer release, SNW placed well against other original streaming shows in the week ending June 16th. Opening in sixth place in the top ten with 33.4 times average demand is promising.

Hopefully way Prodigy’s cancelation and removal dominated the media and social media after the second week will not adversely impact SNW’s run too much.

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