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[–] Lamy@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Why not mental health for all?

[–] Lexam@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 years ago

Everyone deserves mental health. And everyone deserves a safe space to discuss their feelings and emotions with others in a similar situation. And I don't want a space strictly for men. A LOT of men need to hear women's perspectives and experiences. And process what was shared and why it is important. I don't want men to learn how to be better men. I want men to learn how to to be happier, and better people.

[–] Nataratata@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

How can you even dare do suggest such an evil thing? Everybody knows men and women are completely different creatures. There's no way they would be able to talk about mental health together! /s

[–] nothendev@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Nataratata@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks for the suggestion, I thought it was obvious

[–] nothendev@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

Yep no problem :)

[–] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I think that's implied. Damn brave for not using the /s

Edit: I just checked the commentor's history, I believe this is almost certainly sarcasm.

[–] nothendev@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

They've added it to their comment so this is the good ending I guesss

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

There's a benefit to having communities for all and communities focused on the different groups, may it be specific genders, ethnic groups, generations, socio economic backgrounds and so on... The support people need might be similar in some cases, it can also be very specific to who they are in other situations...

[–] Lamy@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m on the fence about that. The internet seems so fractured, hateful, extremist and identity based, that it seems like leaning into an identity group is going to create the problems it looks to solve, in this case toxic masculinity.

Irl is a different story though.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I didn't mention it in that comment but mentioned it in another, it would need to be tightly moderated to work, so does any similar community though.

[–] Lamy@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I suppose if it’s really focused on positivity and support then it couldn’t be bad

[–] Lamy@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I’m on the fence about that. The internet seems so fractured, hateful, extremist and identity based, that it seems like leaning into an identity group is going to create the problems it looks to solve, in this case toxic masculinity.

Irl is a different story though.

[–] SQL_InjectMe@partizle.com 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because a lot of women perpetuate societal standards of toxic masculinity and make men feel unwelcome

[–] Lamy@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Isn’t that all the more reason to have an inclusive space to talk about it?

[–] gundog48@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Honestly, I agree, putting a gender slant on it, unless completely necessary, can easily arecomplicate the situation, as its putting these expectations at the front of mind. I often see this leading either into resentful sexism, or original sin type self-loathing for being a man.

I honesty just think tbe topic of gender online is so toxic, that mixing it in with mental health can cause lots of unnecessarily complications, and makes it easy for third parties to take advantage for their own ends.