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[–] Kultronx@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 6 months ago (5 children)

not good. how do we feel about fellow 'communists' or 'leftists' celebrating this?

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 42 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

they likely don't understand the concept of critical support and/or have a prejudice against Iran based on Western bourgeois media

like any capitalist country outside of the imperial core, Iran has plenty of internal contradictions, but it's still one of the main bulwarks against imperialism in the region

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Very weird to celebrate

I'm no fan of current Iranian governance, or even Hamas. I understand why they exist, but I wouldn't choose to live under their governments. That doesn't mean I want their leaders dying since I can see their importance to resisting US imperialism.

I would say this is like disagreeing with how China has developed since their revolution. Am I a huge fan of all of it? Of course not. That doesn't mean I would celebrate Xi dying or China dissolving it's communist party. Not to compare them to Iran too much, obviously very different things, but western "leftists" (they're liberals really most of the time) see them as "bad guys" with zero nuance or perspective. Important perspective such as no matter how authoritarian Iran is or brutal to its citizens (and i have no doubt that many stories have core truths to them. The stories we read about life there) will ever compare to the brutality the US empire has unleashed on places like Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Iraq, Iran (hmm), entirety of South America, Mexico, etc. basically the entire globe. So, are they bad in some ways? Undoubtedly. But the bigger bad, that they resist, is the US military and empire. And this can't be forgotten. You don't have to praise Iran's government in order to see that it is the lesser evil compared to the US and also it only exists because of the US and now Israeli interference in the region.

[–] juchenecromancer@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 6 months ago

And this lesser evil is ACTUALLY a a significantly less evil thing than the US, unlike how crakkker Demo-rats try to portray Biden as some kind of lesser evil over Trump although he's not.

[–] SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 6 months ago

I have no sympathy for fellow "communists" and "leftists" who break ranks on the anti-imperialist front, personally. I could understand some satisfaction if they'd personally suffered under the present government- but even then, celebrating is a step too far and would make them compradors.

[–] sudo_halt@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm Iranian and I'm celebrating this

He was a useless sack of shit conservative who nobody really cared about, even the hardcore right wingers weren't too fond of him

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

out of curiosity, do you live in Iran?