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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

As a techno-optimist, I always expected self-driving to quickly become safer than human, at least in relatively controlled situations. However I’m at least as much a pessimist of human nature and the legal system.

Given self-driving vehicles demonstrably safer than human, but not perfect, how can we get beyond humans taking advantage, and massive liability for the remaining accidents?

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I used to hate them for being slow and annoying. Now they drive like us and I hate them for being dicks. This morning, one of them made an insane move that only the worst Audi drivers in my area do, a massive left over a solid yellow across no stop sign with me coming right at it before it even began acceleration into the intersection.

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago (6 children)

How are they with parking lots, tho'?

[–] randompasta 10 points 1 week ago

Or yielding to emergency vehicles.

[–] Jayk0b@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think "veritasium" or what the yt channel is called made a video about those.

It did manage to bring him to a store with a big parking lot, it did it.

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[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

That doesn't seem like a very high bar to achieve

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I believe it, but they also only drive specific routes.

[–] roguelazer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Focusing on airbag-deployments and injuries ignores the obvious problem: these things are unbelievably unsafe for pedestrians and bicyclists. I curse SF for allowing AVs and always give them a wide berth because there's no way to know if they see you and they'll often behave erratically and unpredictably in crosswalks. I don't give a shit how often the passengers are injured, I care a lot more how much they disrupt life for all the people who aren't paying Waymo for the privilege.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 11 points 1 week ago

The question is are they safer than human drivers, not are they safe. Cars exist, are everywhere, and are very unsafe to pedestrians. You won't be able to get rid of cars, so if waymo is really safer we should mandate it on all cars. That is a big if though - drunk drivers are still a large percentage of crashes so is if far to lump sober drivers together with drunks - I don't know the real statistics to figure this out.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago

always give them a wide berth because there's no way to know if they see you and they'll often behave erratically and unpredictably in crosswalks

All of this applies to dealing with human drivers, too.

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how those robot food delivery "robot ai boxes"? by starship doing?

[–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (17 children)

And yet it's still the least efficient mode of transport.

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