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[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 55 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I've never got this either. I've been using Linux exclusively for over 4 years, multiple devices, tested dozens of distros, almost all Systemd-based and I havent ever experienced any problems that the anti-systemd folks talk about.

Or at least, they were so rare and minimal that I didn't notice.

Coming from an IT background dealing with 99% Windows machines and Microsoft products, maybe my bar was on the floor, but Linux has been soooo much more stable and dependable than Windows.

[-] Helix@feddit.de 42 points 9 months ago

Been using Linux since 2004 and systemd has made my life significantly easier. People bickering about systemd are usually ultra nerds without arguments real people would consider important.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 14 points 9 months ago

I remember in my coding class when the prof claimed the language we were learning didn’t have GOTO, but it also didn’t need it because anything that could be accomplished with GOTO could be accomplished with loops and conditionals.

Now looking back I can’t believe what a tech debt nightmare goto is, and I’m glad I weaned off it.

Startup scripts seem more powerful because they’re code you know will be executed sequentially. For a developer that feels nice.

But a declarative system like systemd is so much more predictable and stable, specifically because it does NOT allow for sequential execution of code.

Once I made that switch I was a fan. It’s so much more predictable and standardized.

[-] Helix@feddit.de 3 points 9 months ago

Exactly my sentiment. Why would you want something with more moving parts than systemd which is also slower? :D

There are some good alternatives to SysV init.d scripts nowadays which only came to fruition after systemd existed and people noticed it's possible to write something like this.

I used OpenRC and s6 and both of them worked better and were easier to configure than SysV init.

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