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[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

As someone who’s grown up in Latin America, what I don’t understand is why Spain gets a pass, every single fucking time in the eyes of the West and pretty much world over?

They don’t even have the excuse of being precious little Italy who didn’t have the vestiges of a massive fucking empire dating all the way to the mid 20th century.

Spain is the most fash country in the West, by far.

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Spain may be the western country that’s done the most historic evil but there is no way that modern day Spain is worse than modern day France, US, or UK.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Spain may be the western country that’s done the most historic evil

It would be UK, actually, with US second. France, Spain and Germany are tied for the third place.

Oh to be clear I wasn’t saying definitively that Spain was the worst, just that it could be possible. Modern day Spain isn’t even in the competition

[–] BashfulBob@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

why Spain gets a pass, every single fucking time in the eyes of the West

The Spanish Empire was functionally kaput at the end of the 19th century. The US/UK take more of the blame because they gobbled up the territories that Spain used to hold. It's the same reason why the US takes more flack for our involvement in Vietnam than the French. Just a game of hot potato. You get the blame for being the last guy to hold the bag.

I don't think anyone is suggesting the Conquistadors are somehow absolved of blame. But Spain, as an institution, hasn't been a global player in nearly a century.

They don’t even have the excuse of being precious little Italy

That's exactly the excuse they have, practically speaking. And Italy gets tons of shit for being a hotbed of vile Catholicism.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago

Protestantism is just as bad. It's the christianity, not the sect. For that matter nearly all religions are problematic.

[–] camaron30@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Spain gets a what? What are you even talking about??

That "pass" (if it even exists) is because current Spain is nowhere near as relevant as France, US or the UK in the world stage. Also lmao at saying Spain is more fascists than any of them.

[–] Antiwork@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

My cousin Carl is more fash than Biden