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[–] protonslive@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago

I find this very offensive, wait until my chatgpt hears about this! It will have a witty comeback for you just you watch!

[–] j4yt33@feddit.org 2 points 6 days ago

I've only used it to write cover letters for me. I tried to also use it to write some code but it would just cycle through the same 5 wrong solutions it could think of, telling me "I've fixed the problem now"

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 185 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Quickly, ask AI how to improve or practice critical thinking skills!

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Chat GPT et al; "To improve your critical thinking skills you should rely completely on AI."

[–] VitoRobles 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That sounds right. Lemme ask Gemini and DeepSink just in case.

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[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 123 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Sounds a bit bogus to call this a causation. Much more likely that people who are more gullible in general also believe AI whatever it says.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This isn't a profound extrapolation. It's akin to saying "Kids who cheat on the exam do worse in practical skills tests than those that read the material and did the homework." Or "kids who watch TV lack the reading skills of kids who read books".

Asking something else to do your mental labor for you means never developing your brain muscle to do the work on its own. By contrast, regularly exercising the brain muscle yields better long term mental fitness and intuitive skills.

This isn't predicated on the gullibility of the practitioner. The lack of mental exercise produces gullibility.

Its just not something particular to AI. If you use any kind of 3rd party analysis in lieu of personal interrogation, you're going to suffer in your capacity for future inquiry.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Corporations and politicians: "oh great news everyone... It worked. Time to kick off phase 2..."

  • Replace all the water trump wasted in California with brawndo
  • Sell mortgages for eggs, but call them patriot pods
  • Welcome to Costco, I love you
  • All medicine replaced with raw milk enemas
  • Handjobs at Starbucks
  • Ow my balls, Tuesdays this fall on CBS
  • Chocolate rations have gone up from 10 to 6
  • All government vehicles are cybertrucks
  • trump nft cartoons on all USD, incest legal, Ivanka new first lady.
  • Public executions on pay per view, lowered into deep fried turkey fryer on white house lawn, your meat is then mixed in with the other mechanically separated protein on the Tyson foods processing line (run exclusively by 3rd graders) and packaged without distinction on label.
  • FDA doesn't inspect food or drugs. Everything approved and officially change acronym to F(uck You) D(umb) A(ss)
[–] abobla@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago

that "ow, my balls" reference caught me off-guard

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I love how you mix in the Idiocracy quotes :D

[–] singletona@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

I hate how it just seems to slide in.

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 57 points 1 week ago

You mean an AI that literally generated text based on applying a mathematical function to input text doesn't do reasoning for me? (/s)

I'm pretty certain every programmer alive knew this was coming as soon as we saw people trying to use it years ago.

It's funny because I never get what I want out of AI. I've been thinking this whole time "am I just too dumb to ask the AI to do what I need?" Now I'm beginning to think "am I not dumb enough to find AI tools useful?"

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 35 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Good. Maybe the dumbest people will forget how to breathe, and global society can move forward.

[–] gerbler@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

Oh you can guarantee they won't forget how to vote 😃

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[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 week ago (10 children)

You can either use AI to just vomit dubious information at you or you can use it as a tool to do stuff. The more specific the task, the better LLMs work. When I use LLMs for highly specific coding tasks that I couldn't do otherwise (I'm not a [good] coder), it does not make me worse at critical thinking.

I actually understand programming much better because of LLMs. I have to debug their code, do research so I know how to prompt it best to get what I want, do research into programming and software design principles, etc.

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[–] Joeyfingis@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

Let me ask chatgpt what I think about this

[–] mindlesscrollyparrot@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well thank goodness that Microsoft isn't pushing AI on us as hard as it can, via every channel that it can.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Learning how to evade and disable AI is becoming a critical thinking skill unto itself. Feels a bit like how I've had to learn to navigate around advertisements and other intrusive 3rd party interruptions while using online services.

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[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 26 points 1 week ago
[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 week ago (13 children)

I grew up as a kid without the internet. Google on your phone and youtube kills your critical thinking skills.

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[–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Also your ability to search information on the web. Most people I've seen got no idea how to use a damn browser or how to search effectively, ai is gonna fuck that ability completely

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[–] mervinp14@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Damn. Guess we oughtta stop using AI like we do drugs/pron/ 😀

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[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 20 points 1 week ago

Critical thinking skills are what hold me back from relying on ai

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Remember the:

Personal computers were “bicycles for the mind.”

I guess with AI and social media it's more like melting your mind or something. I can't find another analogy. Like a baseball bat to your leg for the mind doesn't roll off the tongue.

I know Primeagen has turned off copilot because he said the "copilot pause" daunting and affects how he codes.

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[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago

Of course. Relying on a lighter kills your ability to start a fire without one. Its nothing new.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago (7 children)

The one thing that I learned when talking to chatGPT or any other AI on a technical subject is you have to ask the AI to cite its sources. Because AIs can absolutely bullshit without knowing it, and asking for the sources is critical to double checking.

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Really? I just asked ChatGPT and this is what it had to say:

This claim is misleading because AI can enhance critical thinking by providing diverse perspectives, data analysis, and automating routine tasks, allowing users to focus on higher-order reasoning. Critical thinking depends on how AI is used—passively accepting outputs may weaken it, but actively questioning, interpreting, and applying AI-generated insights can strengthen cognitive skills.

[–] ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Not sure if sarcasm..

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Idk man. I just used it the other day for recalling some regex syntax and it was a bit helpful. However, if you use it to help you generate the regex prompt, it won't do that successfully. However, it can break down the regex and explain it to you.

Ofc you all can say "just read the damn manual", sure I could do that too, but asking an generative a.i to explain a script can also be as effective.

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[–] dill@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Tinfoil hat me goes straight to: make the population dumber and they’re easier to manipulate.

It’s insane how people take LLM output as gospel. It’s a TOOL just like every other piece of technology.

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[–] Jeffool@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

When it was new to me I tried ChatGPT out of curiosity, like with any tech, and I just kept getting really annoyed at the expansive bullshit it gave to the simplest of input. "Give me a list of 3 X" lead to fluff-filled paragraphs for each. The bastard children of a bad encyclopedia and the annoying kid in school.

I realized I was understanding it wrong, and it was supposed to be understood not as a useful tool, but as close to interacting with a human, pointless prose and all. That just made me more annoyed. It still blows my mind people say they use it when writing.

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[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago
[–] gramie@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I was talking to someone who does software development, and he described his experiments with AI for coding.

He said that he was able to use it successfully and come to a solution that was elegant and appropriate.

However, what he did not do was learn how to solve the problem, or indeed learn anything that would help him in future work.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm a senior software dev that uses AI to help me with my job daily. There are endless tools in the software world all with their own instructions on how to use them. Often they have issues and the solutions aren't included in those instructions. It used to be that I had to go hunt down any references to the problem I was having though online forums in the hopes that somebody else figured out how to solve the issue but now I can ask AI and it generally gives me the answer I'm looking for.

If I had AI when I was still learning core engineering concepts I think shortcutting the learning process could be detrimental but now I just need to know how to get X done specifically with Y this one time and probably never again.

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