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[-] yamanii@lemmy.world 67 points 5 months ago

For real, this algorithm is making people talk in a funny way to discuss anything, I cringe whenever someone has to say "unalive" or the video goes to the bottom of the feed.

[-] pkill@programming.dev 44 points 5 months ago

Fucking newspeak. Corporate media must die

[-] orrk@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago

it's not newspeak, it might be euphemisms but the meaning of what is being said is alive and well, the major hallmark of newspeak is to limit the ability to convey ideas via conversation

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

the major hallmark of newspeak is to limit the ability to convey ideas via conversation

Slowly constricting the number of words that can be publicly spoken does work us toward that end. Folks who think they're cleverly sidestepping the latest hurdle are only getting corralled deeper into the pen.

[-] stingpie@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

To be precise, newspeak does function by a direct reduction of vocabulary. Instead, newspeak works by expanding the number of meanings a single word can have, so that every sentence can be interpreted as supportive of the party, and the 'grammatically correct' meaning of the sentence is the supportive interpretation.

The closest approximation of newspeak in English is the sentence "That didn't work, did it?" If you respond "Yes," that can be interpreted as "Yes, you are correct, that didn't work." And if you reply "No," that can't be interpreted as "No, that didn't work."

[-] Cort@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Oz response: nah, yeah it worked mate

[-] thisisnotgoingwell@programming.dev 2 points 5 months ago

Simple math, gotta cancel out the negative with your own negative and then affirm the positive

[-] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Ok, so like how it limits the ability to convey ideas via conversation then?

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Adapting language to bypass censorship is very much not Newspeak

It's quite literally the opposite of Newspeak, an artificial language designed to constrict speech and prevent the spread of complex ideas.

[-] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Adapting language to bypass censorship is one of the dictionary definitions of Newspeak, a form of circumlocution.

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That was the end goal of Newspeak, but it hadn't been achieved. It was a slow process.

You could argue this is what they're doing, training people to talk in a sterilised way. That it would become so normalised that anybody trying to speak normally would be dismissed as cringey or whatever. All to the benefit of advertisers.

Maybe that's a huge leap, but I think that was the gist of what they meant.

[-] orrk@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

avoiding certain words does not create newspeak, but rather the inability to use a limited set of words outside a given context, circumventing speech restrictions is arguably the least newspeak thing possible, as it basically makes any attempt at new speak impossible.

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

I feel like it's more comparable to 1337speak

[-] mononomi@feddit.nl 42 points 5 months ago

Is there a community for the weirdest ads? I have a whole screenshot collection

[-] EvilLootbox@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago
[-] Justas@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

Be the change you want to see.

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 40 points 5 months ago

I'd love all of my content to be unsuitable for advertisers! Remember when posting on corponet to add something like this to the end of all your posts:

The products featured below have been known to cause users unexpected diarrhoea

[-] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

I think unsuitable for advertisers is a win-win, you take up more of their storage space, costing them money, and you get to post what the fuck you want!

[-] lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 5 months ago

Except when they deem it unsuitable for advertisers, they still run ads on the video, they just don't pay the creator so Google gets 100% of the ad money

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago

The advertisers: HEY KIDS, WANT SOME FAPPIN FURRY GACHAPON?? (dark patterns for skipping ad)

[-] Nanomerce@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

that fucking fox from the bloodline ads has an entire character arc in the ads

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

How do you even notice this?

[-] Nanomerce@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

because youtube shoves ads down my throat for that game

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Ah yeah, I use revanced.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No monetization from YouTube. Those with direct sponsorships and/or patreon subscribers or other donators probably make more off those other means of generating income than what Google AdSense pays out. Especially when they constantly change the rules of what can get you demonetized.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Those with direct sponsorships and/or patreon subscribers or other donators probably make more off those other means of generating income than what Google AdSense pays out

True. But its only a matter of time before Patreon gets sold off, like Bandcamp was a year ago. The longer time goes on, the fewer of these alternative outlets exist, and the more people depend on a consolidated set of tools to reach their audience.

[-] Jomega@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Wait, what happened with Bandcamp?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/oct/17/bandcamp-lays-off-half-its-staff-after-buyout-by-songtradr

Absolute bloodbath after it was acquired by the firm with the world's largest repository of music licenses.

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah but also the algorithm won't push their content as much either

[-] squid_slime@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

The internet is a corporate ces pit, we need to block and ignore adds and make marketing unviable, then we can reclaim our once free inherent !

[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago

Boy born without a brain calls out to me the most out of all of these. It seems so relatable.

[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

YouTube turning into usual TV? Shocking.

[-] rabiddolphin@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I hate YouTube and everything about influencer culture. Peertube is our best hope against it

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

I haven't tried alternatives since Odysee, seems like a "decentralized" platform without racism and crypto scams isn't possible at the moment.

[-] bad_alloc@feddit.de 7 points 5 months ago

At which point do political ideologies get shaped by "advertiser friendliness"?

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

Always has been.

Remember to buy merch from your favourite monetized socialist because that'll sure change things!

All ideology is a scam. Maybe we should think for ourselves?

[-] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Btw, do not search for "cooking pokemon charmander"

[-] TheCheddarCheese@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago
[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

How bad is it? I want to ruin a charmander loving friend's day but I would have to watch it with them.

[-] dipshit@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Youtube took down a video of a cop abusing a child. they said it was child endangerment. They’re not wrong but also this is a legal issue, that was a man of the law. This should be shared far and wide.

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