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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (28 children)

I love how you just keep flaunting your ignorance here. Communists aren't imbeciles who think that you can simply snap your fingers and abolish the state, they recognize the need for a transitional socialist period from the current system to a communist one.

[–] b3nsn0w@pricefield.org 2 points 1 year ago (27 children)

and how do you wish to avoid that the leaders of said transitional socialist period just cling to power?

as someone who has to live in the aftermath of one of those "transitional socialist periods" that predictably went nowhere and just broke the country's spirit completely, i'm really damn curious. we are not talking about hypotheticals here.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (26 children)

I grew up in USSR and I certainly preferred it to what followed after the collapse. Claiming that it went nowhere is just brain dead. The fact is that USSR had to compete with the US empire after the war, and US being across the ocean was completely unscathed while USSR had to rebuild under duress. Of course, if you just ignore all that then you can make intellectually dishonest statements of the sort you do.

[–] Spinnyl 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If you lived in Russia then sure. If you lived in any of the annexed countries and preferred the priviledge of not being able to travel, secret police checking your every fart and people dying while trying to, for some inexplicable reason, escape to the evil west, then you're a traitor to your own people.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

meanwhile in the real world

[–] Spinnyl 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes, in the real world, some people have a very short and selective memories.

Fortunately statistics are quite clear in proving otherwise.

www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/26/this-is-the-golden-age-eastern-europes-extraordinary-30-year-revival

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In reality, the "revival" wasn't evenly distributed. Lots of people became destitute and exploited in the process, while a small minority of parasites started to enjoy lavish lifestyles built on their backs.

[–] Spinnyl 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, that is true and those obscenely rich people shouldn't exist.

But, for me, anything is better than being at the mercy of a tyrannical regime hell bent on controlling all aspect of your life, turning people against each other and removing them for their opinions.

The USSR era was the worst thing in the modern history of Europe (yet) and anyone who idealizes it is, at best, scum.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 month ago
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