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"Signal is being blocked in Venezuela and Russia. The app is a popular choice for encrypted messaging and people trying to avoid government censorship, and the blocks appear to be part of a crackdown on internal dissent in both countries..."

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[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago (19 children)

Signal knows who you are taking to. You can build a network of contacts based on that information. When you send messages your phone number is protected but your ip address is not, and the receivers phone number is not protected. So you can find two people chatting based on that information. The app automatically sends a delivery receipt when a message is received to the other user, exposing the senders phone number and IP address.

However, opposition in the country is backed by western agencies and NGOs, and likely their primary means of communication is signal since it's backed by western intelligence, meaning, western actors believe it to be safe from external interference.

I'm not arguing that the west is reading messages. I'm arguing that they believe it's a safe haven for their agents because they pay money to ensure it's safe for their agents. If it wasn't, they wouldn't use it. Its the same reason why the intelligence community in the west is a large supporter of the tor network. They use it in the field and operate their own exit nodes to protect their operations.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (18 children)

That's what you fail to understand. It's open source, it has been audited. Venezuela and any other country can check and crack the encryption if has holes in it. The long first paragraph is something that's not a secret, but widely known.

You know what's also safe? Encrypted emails. VPNs. Matrix.

If you think this is a movement against foreign agents, you should think it's useless too. For a sufficiently motivated agent, this will be trivial to overcome. For the general population? Not so much.

Unless next all forms of private communication re forbidden, of curse. Surely what people on a privacy community advocate for.

[–] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

well, except for all the times Signal just "forgets" to update the published source code of a year or so. Other than that its perfectly open source

[–] fira959@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Funded by the US? Well thats the entire internet, including Tor, Linux and Matrix…

Amazing how much BS is spread here

The only relevant part is the client, which as always been open source.

[–] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The server is arguably more important, that is where the data and meta data itself are stored. Linux has never hid its source code for a year, and matrix can be self hosted.

I mean if you want to trust a honey pot go right ahead

[–] fira959@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago

More baseless nonsense

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