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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 36 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (11 children)

Even without taking into account Disney's legal "defence" (a cesspool of shit), anyone who has seen the news on this and kept their Disney+ subscription should be, for moral purposes, treated as someone who condones murder, as they're giving a murderous company the OK sign: "please continue doing things as usual".

People here are criticising Rossman's arguments based on Disney's "defence" being likely considered baseless, but on general grounds it's still a good point: piracy is a great way to avoid abusive contracts altogether.

(Also: if paying is not owning, piracy is not theft, simple as.)

[–] figaro@lemdro.id 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

anyone who has seen the news on this and kept their Disney+ subscription should be, for moral purposes, treated as someone who condones murder

Bro, not gonna lie, this is a bad take. My grandparents just want to watch their soap operas, my parents really like star wars.

It's like global warming. Blaming individuals for not recycling is not the move - taking action against huge corporations is the only realistic way to make change. By blaming random people, we end up looking like crazy people.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz -5 points 3 months ago

I get that your [grand]parents want to watch their stuff. Just like I want to eat chocolate*, even if it's associated with child slavery in West Africa. But I don't think that someone's enjoyment should come at the price of ruining others' lives.

And sadly, that's exactly what happens here. Our conscious decisions to accept products and services from businesses that grossly disregard human life and dignity - like Disney and Nestlé - make us condoners. People who are still willing to pay for either have blood on their hands, like it or not.

We have other options. In your case, good ol' piracy would let them have their fun without feeding the company.

It’s like global warming. Blaming individuals for not recycling is not the move - taking action against huge corporations is the only realistic way to make change. By blaming random people, we end up looking like crazy people.

I don't think that we [people in general] should fall for a dichotomy like "either blame the company, or the individuals consuming their shit". While the blame for the individuals is considerably lower, they still have some blame - for feeding the company. We should be fighting in both fronts.

*I'm comparing the situation with chocolate because IDGAF about Disney but I care a lot about food, so it's easier for me to put myself in the shoes of your family this way.

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