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[–] taaz@biglemmowski.win 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (23 children)

I am currently in the market for a new mobile phone. The current's one battery is basically dead and because of security patches now being about 2 years old I have to replace it whole instead of just getting the battery replaced again.

Pixel with GrapheneOS has been my number one choice for some time but...

  1. there is no (privacy friendly & legal) replacement for Google Play Protect. My banking app won't work without it as well as one other app I kind of need too.
  2. I am also just too used to having a phone in the 250-300 EUR range in the sense that I don't have to care about it that much.
    It's a "consumable" product for me. Loosing/drowning it is not a big deal, where drowning 800 euros is just hard to justify no matter how much money I make.

I will probably just get the OnePlus Nord 4 instead because of their pledge to do 6 years of updates.

[–] sugartits@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Just buy an older supported device if grapheneos is important to you. Something like a 6 pro would be fine.

[–] NoDignity@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

To anyone reading this a 6 is a great pick but its worth knowing that the 7 year update promise only began with the pixel 8 so if you buy a 6 in 2024 it probably only has about 2 years of updates left. However they are only like $150 used I think so the value is probably there even if you only get 2 years of use out of it.

[–] vii@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What's the point of Goggle's security support when you're buying the phone for GrapheneOS?

[–] Laborer3652@reddthat.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Graphene only supports devices for as long as the manufacturer does, maybe slightly longer.

Doesn't seem like the old CyanogenMod days where you could slap that shit on there forever.

[–] vii@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Laborer3652@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah kinda! My pixel is still going strong, but I kind of feel forced to get rid of it now. I would much prefer to just flash a new ROM and get a few more years out of it. The hardware is (still) really good for the performance I expect out of my phone.

Eh. Maybe I'll get a new phone, wipe this one and use it for traveling.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You expect them to backport security updates to pixel 3 or whatever for free when even the manufacturer doesn't?

[–] vii@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Isn't that what Lineage does?

[–] Noxious@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago

They only backport (some) OS patches, the firmware doesn't get updated after the vendor classifies a device as EOL.

[–] Noxious@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago

To get Android into a fully patched state, you need both firmware updates that come from your phone's vendor, as well as OS patches that come from your OS developer (in this case GrapheneOS). GrapheneOS usually only provides OS updates as long as Google provides firmware updates, because they don't want people to run outdated and potentially insecure devices with old, unpatched firmware. But they have extended update cycles for some EOL devices like the Pixel 4a (5G) and Pixel 5.

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