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Ah yes, being a piece of shit is a crime worthy of being tortured and murdered by literal nazis. Liberal values on display as usual. ๐คก
Well that's certainly not what the Wikipedia article I linked says. He died of pneumonia. Do you have a differing source?
Where was he being held when he "died of pneumonia" again? https://scheerpost.com/2023/06/04/father-of-gonzalo-lira-american-jailed-in-ukraine-speaks-out-against-political-imprisonment/
Article doesn't even mention his death lol. Yea, he was a prisoner, for committing a crime. Seems like a case of FAFO to me. And certainly no big loss.
What crime did he commit again bud?
I'm not up on Ukrainian law, and really, really don't care about this dude. Any point you have is wasted on me.
It's interesting that you apparently support the Ukrainian censorship of freedom of expression applied to US citizens. Very revealing.
I didn't know American law applied in foreign countries. Interesting
Nice straw man you got there. Nowhere did I say that American law applies to foreign countries. What was actually said that the law he broke in Ukraine was one restricting freedom of expression. A supposed value that US is helping Ukraine defend. Not only that, but apparently US regime didn't really care about the fact that their puppet regime in Ukraine arrested and tortured a US citizen for exercising his speech, the core value that US regime purports to be fighting for. Quite telling that you're aggressively working not to understand what's happening here.
Also it's on the wiki
To sum up, a US citizen was arrested for exercising his free speech, then thrown into prison where he was tortured and denied medical care, dying as a result. If that happened in Russia you'd be screeching about fascism right now, but since it happened to somebody you dislike, and was done by the fascists you support, you see no problem.
If it happened in Russia I would agree if he broke Russian laws while in Russia, he should face Russian consequences. It all seems really simple to me. If you commit a crime in a foreign country you are typically subject to their laws.
The discussion here is regrading the behavior of the US government when a US citizen was detained by the client regime of the US. These are the services that US would normally offer that were denied in this case https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/emergencies/arrest-detention.html
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