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[–] funtrek@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago (11 children)

The problem with c++ is that it allows people to do whatever they want. Turns out: people are dumb. Rust solved that problem. Nothing more, nothing less.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg -3 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Rust still allows people to do (basically) whatever they want via unsafe blocks.

[–] funtrek@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure, but you have to explicitly enable this feature. In c++ you can use the oldest shit from twenty years ago and your compiler happily does its job. All my c++ books are full of "you shouldn’t use xy as it is deemed unsafe now, but of course you still can".

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If a "safe C++" proposal truly proposes a safe subset, then yes your C++ code would have to opt-in to doing unsafe things. For the purposes of this discussion of a safe subset ... the point is moot.

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not moot. The Safe C++ is opt-in to safety. It has to be because otherwise it wouldn't be compatible with existing C++.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's a laudable difference /s. Using Rust is also an "opt-in" option.

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