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[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (17 children)

That's not what they were saying, they were saying that it's not economical to have an abundance of electricity when people need it the least, and little or no electricity when people need it the most. It would be one thing if utilities could sell solar electricity at peak demand hours for a higher price, to make up the difference, but that's just when solar generation is slowly down significantly or stopped entirely.

And, yes, I know that battery storage could theoretically solve this, but battery technology is not currently capable of providing electricity for the entirety of the time we need it. New technologies are being developed right now with the goal of achieving long term grid storage, but they are still in the R&D phase. I'm confident a suitable storage technology, or multiple technologies, will eventually come to market, but it's going to take a while.

Regardless, it is likely we will always need some kind of on-demand power generation to supplement renewables and maintain grid stability, and I think nuclear is the best option.

But we shouldn't act like the problem is that utilities are just greedy. Many utilities aren't even for-profit companies, as many are either not-for-profit cooperatives or public entities. Sure, there are also many for-profit power utilities as well, maybe even some with connections to the fossil fuel industry, but generally power utilities are not some great villain.

[–] neomachino@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

For the longest time I thought people who had solar panels had a battery on their property somewhere, they're panels would charge battery and they would only switch to the grid if their battery ran out.

I don't know much about it, but this seems like a pretty viable solution and I still can't believe this isn't how it works.

[–] Dkiscoo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah you can do that. Not everyone does

[–] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 1 month ago

that requires specialized equipment other than the battery. you need to generate AC from the DC of the panels and battery, and the easiest way to do that at the right frequency and phase is to follow the grid. that's why most solar installations stop providing power without a grid connection; you need a wave to sync with.

if you want to be truly independent you need your own wave forming equipment. and not the cheap stuff either, like the 12V inverters for cars that give out square waves. that's fine for like a drill, but plug a computer into that and there's a chance it fries. it won't charge, at least not for long.

also you need extra safeguards to not fry electrical workers when they disable the grid and your power comes flowing the other way.

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