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[–] pinguinu@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

How much time until they remove Chinese maintainers?

[–] Sal@mander.xyz 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (7 children)

Possibly if/when China uses weapons against Taiwan or some other country in Asia according to Theodore Ts'o in that thread (here)

There are multiple sanctions programs, and at least in the US, for the sanctions program which Huawei is in, there is an exception for conversations and patches that take place in a public mailing list, such as LKML. As a result, as the ext4 maintainer, I am comfortable taking patches from engineers employed by Huawei, and I consider them valued members of the ext4 development community.

However, note that China is not actively attacking Taiwai militarily, while there are Russian missiles and drones, some of which may controlled by embedded Linux systems, that are being used against Ukraine even as we speak. Hence, it should not be surprising that the rules imposed by the US Government might be different for Huawei compared to other sanctioned entities that are directly or indirectly controlled by the Russian Military-Industrial complex.

There are also other sanctions regimes imposed by Japan, European Countries, etc., which might be more or less strict. So in general, if you are not sure what you need to do as an US, European, Japanese, etc. citizen who might be subject to civil or criminal penalties ---- talk to a lawyer.

The bottom line is that it is a false equivalence to claim that sanctions involving China and Russia are the same. They very much aren't; one country is engaging in an active shooting war (or if you prefer, "special military operation"), and the other is not.

Of course, if China were to militarily attack Taiwan or some other country in Asia, circumstances might change at some point in the future. Hopefully Chinese leaders will pursue a path of wisdom and those consequences won't come to pass. Ultimately, though, that's not up to any of us on this mail thread.

Cheers,

  • Ted
[–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

There is multiple programs to enforce U.S hegemony over global financial trade, indeed, sanctions are one of these tools. Linux systems are used by the terrorist nation of the United States, certainly, in military use against civilians. Most certainly, intelligence operations have used Linux systems as means to spy and infringe upon our personal privacy waivered away by our governance during 9/11.

Nations collaborating with this terrorist nation also certainly use Linux systems in their governance. So that brings up a question, why is the exception carved out if this occurs when our nation and nations collaborating with it are bombing civilians, sponsoring a genocide and engaging in clandestine intelligence operations against it's own citizens? Especially if Taiwan is a part of China and in the wisdom of Chinese leaders to suppress a violent fascist remnant that has seceded from them.

Russia is intervening after Ukraine was indiscriminately shelling citizens in an 'active shooting war' right on their border in an active genocide of those who decided to secede after Maidan which was funded by the West in order to expand NATO aggressively and Banderite fascists took over. The same fascists who are wearing lighting bolts and skulls as "ironic" tattoos found constantly on Azov and others. By the way, are Linux systems barred from Ukraine after they shelled the DPR and LPR? I doubt it.

The wisdom of Chinese leaders are already apparent in that they haven't invaded over 50 nations worldwide nor participate with multiple nations in a data-sharing pool on spying on their citizens (Five Eyes). Why are there so many double standards?

As per your reply,

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[–] Darkerseid@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What do you mean, specifically?

Like, my tone? The russia-ukraine history? U.S invading over 50 nations worldwide? Five Eyes?

Sorry, just gotta make sure lol.

[–] Darkerseid@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

i didn’t realise it’s you writing the comment and signing 😀

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