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[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 117 points 3 weeks ago (64 children)

one day we will just stick with daylight time. its kind of a slap in the face to lose your only hour of sunlight after work!

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

Permanent daylight time gives us all of the downsides and exactly one benefit. I'm sorry you live that far North/South but that's just how the seasons and tilt of the earth work. We shouldn't be doing split time at all and we shouldn't endeavor to be an hour off the rest of the world just so commuters can drive home with the sun in their eyes.

[–] Rivalarrival 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

There is no formal requirement for your state to stay within its current timezone.

If we go to permanent DST, you can petition for your state to switch to the next timezone to the west, which would give you the same time as permanent standard time in your current timezone. Detroit, for example, is on the western edge of ET. Sunrise in winter for them would be as late as 9AM, which is ridiculous. But, if Michigan shifts to CT instead of ET, sunrise goes to 8AM, and everyone is happy.

Move yourself from EDT to CDT, which is the same as EST. Or move from CDT to MDT/CST. Or MDT to PDT/MST. Or PDT to AKDT/PST.

If you don't want to drive home with your the sun in your eyes, take a job to the east of your home.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Or we could just stop trying to fuck with it and leave it on standard time. Timezones are an international standard. You could easily just adjust your business hours. Instead we're out here bending everything, even literal time around the capitalist demand for productivity. Just stop fucking with it.

[–] Rivalarrival 1 points 3 weeks ago

Timezones are an international standard.

UTC offsets are an international standard. The specific UTC offset to adopt in any particular geographic area is by no means an international standard. That decision is made at a relatively low level of government.

Or we could just stop trying to fuck with it and leave it on standard time.

Clearly, you and I don't want to be in the same time zone. Let's dump the "Standard Time" and "DST" names. They are really just confusing the issue.

Eastern Standard Time is currently UTC-5. What state are you in, and what UTC offset do you want to permanently use?

I am in easterm Ohio, and I want to be permanently on UTC-4.

I think Maine and much of New England would choose to be on permanent UTC-3, so sunset is never before 4PM.

I think Michigan would probably choose permanent UTC-5, so sunrise is never after 8AM.

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