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I am shocked! Shocked! Well actually not that shocked...

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[-] chay@lemmygrad.ml 67 points 10 months ago

Trying to blame their proxy state instead of the US to redirect blame

[-] kd637_mi@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 10 months ago

Yeah I've thought it was the US, or at least US sponsored/advised. The article says apparently the US knew about the attack in advance and told them not to do it, but doesn't give any sources for that that I could see.

[-] chay@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 10 months ago

This is the narrative they spun after Hersh's leaks. They're quite throwing Ukraine under the bus.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

USA: country that consistently lied about its wars, aggressions and involvements

Libs: This time they speak the truth!

Hersh: journalist that was consistenly correct about exposing US lies about their wars

Libs: This time he lied (actually we also accused him of lying every time before, but we are libs so we can lie about that too)

[-] CollisionResistance@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago

Neocons have spun it as "rogue elements inside Ukraine". Never underestimate the mental gymnastics they can play. Will the German public go along? That's the question.

[-] ElHexo@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

There is physical evidence on the boat - it wouldn't surprise me if they engineered the cover story at the same time as planting the explosives

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