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Americans are joining the Chinese social media app en masse to protest an imminent TikTok ban.

  • American users have flocked to Chinese social media platform Xiaohongshu in defiance of security warnings.
  • Chinese and American users have engaged in surprisingly friendly conversations about each other’s lives.
  • The influx of American users could burden Xiaohongshu’s censorship mechanism, experts say.
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[–] Murvel@lemm.ee 25 points 1 day ago (39 children)

Replacing one Chinese Spyware app with another. Lmao, it's just so funny to me.

[–] aarRJaay@lemm.ee 34 points 1 day ago (38 children)

Because an American Spyware app is much better?

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world -3 points 8 hours ago (14 children)

Well, the American one doesn't have an incentive to turn its own people against its own government with propaganda. As is happening with Tiktok and pushing pro-CCP and anti-American content.

And even if the only concern was spying, it's like saying "well a creep on the street snapped a nude photo of me through my windows, so I may as well take my own nudes and pass it around the neighbourhood."

[–] holo@lemmy.wtf 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You want to know how to turn an American against the US government? Tell them, without exaggeration, what their government is doing to them; and tell them, without exaggeration, what other governments do for their citizens.

It's that simple. No lies needed. No american with an IQ above a glass of undrinkable tap water likes their government or thinks their country is worth anything.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

No american with an IQ above a glass of undrinkable tap water likes their government or thinks their country is worth anything.

Complete false dichotomy. This isn't a "my government can beat up your government" squabble.

The reality is that ByteDance has offices for CCP officials in their buildings. The Chinese government has a direct line of influence on the people who work at that company. A government that has openly hostile relations with the West (not even just the USA).

This isn't a discussion about whose government is better. It would be equally inappropriate for a US entity with direct control from the US gov to directly influence Chinese people via an algorithm to push propaganda. The Chinese firewall prevents such a thing from existing or having any significant impact, whereas the opposite isn't true.

[–] holo@lemmy.wtf 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

All of that non sequitur is great, but the fact is no foreign country needs to do anything to make Americans hate their government. Nothing. Except provide a platform that allows free speech.

That's all Tiktok is.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

but the fact is no foreign country needs to do anything to make Americans hate their government.

No one was arguing about making Americans hate their government. The argument is about TikTok being a pro-CCP propaganda tool. That's it.

You keep bringing it back to "hating America", when that was never the point.

What you're saying is actually a typical diversionary tactic that pro-CCP people use. Shift the target of the argument away from the CCP, exactly the way you did.

[–] holo@lemmy.wtf 0 points 58 minutes ago

Please read the output of your LLMs if you're going to use them, you said:

Well, the American one doesn't have an incentive to turn its own people against its own government with propaganda. As is happening with Tiktok and pushing pro-CCP and anti-American content.

It's simply not. It's allowing Americans to speak freely on America without government interference.

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