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What's disgusting about China's government?
I don't know what "blatant authoritarianism" is, materially. What does that look like? Over 90% of people approve the government, and 83% (compared to 49% in the US) believe they live in a democracy.
The treatment of the Uyghur people can definitely be discussed critically, but I think we should follow the UN's consensus on it, which is that it shouldn't be considered a genocide. I think calling re-education camps "genocide" despite no mass killings or steralizations makes light of ongoing genocide like that in Palestine. Further, we should be critical of claims of genocide that exclusively originate with Adrian Zenz, a Christian Nationalist that believes China is the antichrist and works exclusively as a myth-making anticommunist. He's also a documented liar, his claims of forced steralization (paid for by the BBC) come from misrepresenting 8% of annual new IUDs going to Uyghur people for 80%, for a people that were exempt from the One Child Policy due to their status as Ethnic Minorities.
The CPC does practice censorship. I believe this matter should be left to the people of China to decide, however, as their system appears to be percieved as more democratic and beneficial than the US system is for its people.
I am not sure what you mean by saying the CPC isn't Communist anymore. What do you believe a "true Communist" CPC would be doing now, that disqualifies them from being Communist? They are running a Socialist Market Economy where heavy industry and large firms are almost entirely state-owned and controlled, as the meme shows it represents the people over Capital.
Overwhelmingly it looks like the CPC represents the people and is working towards bettering the lives of the working class, such as dramatic expansions in poverty elimination and healthcare cost reductions. They have a long way to go, however, so there is a lot to criticize accurately without holding to the US State Department consensus. One would have to be ignorant to overlook the issues in the PRC, but one would also have to be ignorant to take US State Department lines at face-value when we know they lie all the time. Remember Iraq's WMD?
The CPC has never been communist.
It's socialist.
The CPC is Communist as in they are a Communist party operating on Marxist understanding and analysis. The PRC is Socialist, what the CPC calls Socialism with Chinese Characteristics. Communism as the ideology, not the late-stage, stateless, classless, moneyless society bit.
If you "support" communism you are a Communist.
But if you "support" capitalism you aren't a Capitalist.
Whoever came up with this shit needs to reevaluate some things.
Yea it's extremely unintuitive, people also use Capitalist for those who support Capitalism in liberal circles so that even further ruins communication. It all ends up relying on contextual clues, which shouldn't be the basis of communication IMO.
Yea...
Its really difficult when a communism means two things and both meanings are regularly used in the same context (e.g. a comment), and why the fact that there is at least a distinction between liberalism and capitalism is nice (even if some dont know what liberalism means)
Yep, it stems more from Communism emerging as a prediction for a future society, whereas Liberalism was a post-hoc justification for a society that was already rising.