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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (55 children)

Holy shit. Too bad instances can't defederate HB. They seem to not understand that they're tankies.

[–] carl_marks_1312@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (37 children)

Too bad instances can't defederate HB.

Can you please elaborate?

They seem to not understand that they're tankies.

Tankie is a social construct and is used to lazily discredit everyone to the left of bernie. It functions to libs the same way as "woke" functions for chuds. As a term it's basically meaningless to anyone outside of the internet.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (33 children)

I have only seen it used in reference to people who support dictatorial regimes with socialist aesthetics, mostly MLs. I have yet to see an anarchist be called a tankie. Also you can hear it IRL, not commonly though since most MLs are on twitter and the like and not IRL.

[–] carl_marks_1312@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I have only seen it used in reference to people who support dictatorial regimes with socialist aesthetics, mostly MLs.

yet to see an anarchist be called a tankie

https://hexbear.net/post/214901

https://hexbear.net/post/374789

https://hexbear.net/post/126901

There's more in the_dunk_tank if you're willing to dig

https://hexbear.net/c/the_dunk_tank

Pro Tip: Sort by Top All. Anarchists getting called tankie tends to get a lot of upbears because we have anarchist comrades on our instance. We're a left unity instance

https://hexbear.net/search?q=tankie&type=All&listingType=All&communityId=31&page=1&sort=TopAll

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No idea what the first link is even about, seems incomprehensible. The second link seems true but I have no idea what was said prior. The third link is about programming. Seems there is one potential example of an anarchist being called a tankie. Seems like the vast majority of times it's being used in reference to MLs still.

In all seriousness there are plenty of people who misuse words but tankie seems to have a very clear and easily defined definition, it has even remained the same historically. Comparing it to the crazies using 'woke' is dishonest at best.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it has even remained the same historically

lmao no it hasn't. It originally referred specifically to people that supported the USSR putting down the Hungarian anti-communist protests. By the time "tankie" became a word (that only really ever had relevance in the UK) Stalin was long dead.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yea, people that supported a dictatorial regime with socialist aesthetics as in the USSR. What part of that has changed?

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The USSR was literally more democratic than bourgeois democracy.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It really depends on which bourgeois democracy. I may agree if compared to the US (I'm not too educated on the US so I could be wrong) but few others.

Though I fail to understand how that has anything to do with the topic of tankie having a consistent definition.

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You claim that the USSR was a dictatorship with socialist aesthetics.

Also, no, no bourgeois democracy is or was as democratic as the USSR. Look up dictatorship of the bourgeoisie vs dictatorship of the proletariat.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dictatorship of the proletariat as Marx wrote has never been achieved and arguably(Depending on how naive you believe Lenin was) has never even been worked towards. MLs bastardization of that in the form of a vanguard party is just a different dictatorship of the bourgeoisie as it creates a ruling class.

MLs bastardization of that in the form of a vanguard party is just a different dictatorship of the bourgeoisie as it creates a ruling class.

Have you read marxist theory? What have you read? This comes off as grossly misinformed.

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