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The use of depleted uranium munitions has been fiercely debated, with opponents like the International Coalition to Ban Uranium Weapons saying there are dangerous health risks from ingesting or inhaling depleted uranium dust, including cancers and birth defects.

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 48 points 1 year ago (47 children)

No, the alternative is for the west to stop using Ukraine to fight a proxy war with Russia.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 year ago (13 children)

And what, let the Russians steamroll Ukraine and take everything? Let them destroy a fledgling democracy? Right on the EU's and NATO's doorstep? Come on.

[–] fuckiforgotmypasswor@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

let the Russians steamroll Ukraine and take everything?

I've noticed that every pro-NATO voice screaming "war good" has to pretend like the binary outcome of this war is a) Ukraine becomes Russia and every living inhabitant is genocided (see above comment from bibibi for case in point), or b) Ukraine heroically drives back Russia with magic in a completely asymmetrical and unwinnable war

Come on.

And then finishes their comment with something like this

There's no material analysis to support any of this

The only way to get to that viewpoint is to believe Putin is an irrational, genocidal maniac hellbent on killing checks notes neighbors who are ethnically russian, who also desperately wants to push even more of Russia's border right up against a hostile NATO. It's no surprise that the people saying this shit are pro NATO and don't understand the material reality underlying geopolitical conflicts like this one

Not gonna touch the "fledgeling democracy" thing, other comrades can dunk on that chefs-kiss

[–] CombatLiberalism@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

This entire thread is proof that the liberal understanding of geopolitics and foreign policy is entirely vibes based

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